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Do you know when the NR200P is likely to come back into stock yet?
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I think if I'd have not had a nearly new pair of fans to swap over to I'd have put up with the Coolermaster fans and just set up a fan curve that tends not to sit around 1k rpm (assuming that was where mine resonated, I can't recall!). For the most part, my Corsair fans barely have to spin up as they'll quite happily clear the heat from the case at low speed, it's only really when powering on my machine and the fans go to 100% for a second that I'd likely still notice the resonation.
Not seen any news around when stock is due again. Hopefully soon for all those waiting, would be a shame for Coolermaster to not be able to deliver on the demand for this case.
The case easily supports triple slot cards so 99% of GPUs should fit fine. As for adding bottom fans, you can look at a slim 120 like Noctua 12x15 but as the card gets closer to three slots the need for the bottom intake diminishes, the fans on the card are close enough to the bottom to get direct intake. As for the top fans, I have not used the stock fans. Right now I am using the latest version of the Sickleflow 120 and am happy with them. Could also look at the Artic P12 fans as solid, reasonably priced options. The ML120 fans are great IF you work to control the speed, these get noisy pretty quick.
I tend to like to set fans to the highest speed I can achieve without any real noise, that seems 45% or so for most case fans.
I tend to like to set fans to the highest speed I can achieve without any real noise, that seems 45% or so for most case fans.
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I'm curious how the Asus Tuf turns out in this case as its the GPU I'm considering...eventually.
There is about 60mm total space for a GPU per CM website. The Asus is ~51.7mm thick. That currently leaves you with ~8.3mm. So if you deshroud it there will be enough room for 25mm, definitely the slim fans...but there would clearly be a gap that you'd have to fill up with some 3d printed shrouds or something.
Everything I've read about the Asus Tuf though is its already the best performing in regards to thermals....in some cases ~15°c cooler than the Founders Edition (60°c vs 75°c). At that point is it even worth deshrouding? You might lower the sound signature a hair...but is it worth all that for a few db?
There is about 60mm total space for a GPU per CM website. The Asus is ~51.7mm thick. That currently leaves you with ~8.3mm. So if you deshroud it there will be enough room for 25mm, definitely the slim fans...but there would clearly be a gap that you'd have to fill up with some 3d printed shrouds or something.
Everything I've read about the Asus Tuf though is its already the best performing in regards to thermals....in some cases ~15°c cooler than the Founders Edition (60°c vs 75°c). At that point is it even worth deshrouding? You might lower the sound signature a hair...but is it worth all that for a few db?
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The gap at the bottom between the 25mm fans and the GPU is why I was considering a 120mm to 140mm fan adapter to decrease the gap with 12.7mm. But don't know if this case can fit the adapter. Anyone who do?
I am not sure how much real benefit you get with deshrouding. You do get the benefit of a more powerful fan for the push of the air at lower speeds. However the center dead zone of air for the fans is also much larger on standard case fans. Comparing the Sapphire Pulse fans to Varder, the Pulse fans have a 30mm dead zone and the Varders a 51.5mm dead zone.
At the end of the day there is often just not even really a need. Using the Pulse as an example, the card runs vary cool and quiet with the stock cooler, de-shrouding would likely not have a significant effect. If your worried about making sure the fans get direct outside air a simpler solution might be to "box" in the fan area of the card, make basically a small shorud box that fits between to card and the bottom of the case. Would work to remove sag and would also limit the air intake to ONLY air from the outside of the case. So for example using a Pulse 5700 XT you want a box with an inner wall at 108.5 mm x 229 mm. This means the fans are wide open and can only pull air through the opening below them which is straight to outside air.
At the end of the day there is often just not even really a need. Using the Pulse as an example, the card runs vary cool and quiet with the stock cooler, de-shrouding would likely not have a significant effect. If your worried about making sure the fans get direct outside air a simpler solution might be to "box" in the fan area of the card, make basically a small shorud box that fits between to card and the bottom of the case. Would work to remove sag and would also limit the air intake to ONLY air from the outside of the case. So for example using a Pulse 5700 XT you want a box with an inner wall at 108.5 mm x 229 mm. This means the fans are wide open and can only pull air through the opening below them which is straight to outside air.
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I tried to use an adapter (120mm to 140mm) at the bottom of the case with my 2-slot Gigabyte 2080ti.
It fits, BUT there will be issues of fan blades from the GPU hitting the bottom fans. It gets really tight. You could put some slimline 140mm fans in there with an adapter (or use a very thin adapter), but not the standard 25mm fans in my experience
I would probably use this in case I decide to deshroud the GPU. So fans hitting eachother won't be a problem in this scenario. But thank you for clarifying that a adapter could fit!
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It's a tight fit. Good luck
Hi everyone! I’ve received my NR200P a few weeks ago but I only now found the time to transplant my PC parts from a Lian li Tu150.
I disassembled everything while managing to keep the CPU cooler (Scythe Ninja 5) on my motherboard (Aorus Z490i ultra) but I immediately ran into a big issue. Because the NR200 cannot accommodate a 120mm at the back and because the exhaust fan of the cooler does need to stay flush with the back of the case, it doesn’t fit. I’ve rewatched a series of videos on YouTube and I had completely missed that detail. None of the tower coolers covered in those videos actually require having a fan flush with the back of the case, hence them fitting. I found a guy on Reddit who managed to fit a Ninja 5 in a NR200 but he only managed to do it because his motherboard doesn’t have a heatsink and so he was able to bring the back fan lower than the top of the IO shield.
I wish I had noticed it earlier but now I understand why the NR200 ships with a 90mm fan!
All medium/high performance coolers seem to have some sort of clearance issue, either with the top fans, the side bracket or the PSU mount. Should cooler master had made this case 3-5mm wider, it would have been one of - if not the most - versatile sff case. As is though and potential cooling leaks apart, I feel that this case is far better suited for water cooling.
It’s disappointing but I am considering re-transplanting everything back to the Lian li Tu150 which I believe is a better suited case for air cooling.
If anyone in London, UK is interested in a white NR200P, let me know
This thing is heavy so I am not shipping it though!
I disassembled everything while managing to keep the CPU cooler (Scythe Ninja 5) on my motherboard (Aorus Z490i ultra) but I immediately ran into a big issue. Because the NR200 cannot accommodate a 120mm at the back and because the exhaust fan of the cooler does need to stay flush with the back of the case, it doesn’t fit. I’ve rewatched a series of videos on YouTube and I had completely missed that detail. None of the tower coolers covered in those videos actually require having a fan flush with the back of the case, hence them fitting. I found a guy on Reddit who managed to fit a Ninja 5 in a NR200 but he only managed to do it because his motherboard doesn’t have a heatsink and so he was able to bring the back fan lower than the top of the IO shield.
I wish I had noticed it earlier but now I understand why the NR200 ships with a 90mm fan!
All medium/high performance coolers seem to have some sort of clearance issue, either with the top fans, the side bracket or the PSU mount. Should cooler master had made this case 3-5mm wider, it would have been one of - if not the most - versatile sff case. As is though and potential cooling leaks apart, I feel that this case is far better suited for water cooling.
It’s disappointing but I am considering re-transplanting everything back to the Lian li Tu150 which I believe is a better suited case for air cooling.
If anyone in London, UK is interested in a white NR200P, let me know
This thing is heavy so I am not shipping it though!
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can you post some pics of your issueHi everyone! I’ve received my NR200P a few weeks ago but I only now found the time to transplant my PC parts from a Lian li Tu150.
I disassembled everything while managing to keep the CPU cooler (Scythe Ninja 5) on my motherboard (Aorus Z490i ultra) but I immediately ran into a big issue. Because the NR200 cannot accommodate a 120mm at the back and because the exhaust fan of the cooler does need to stay flush with the back of the case, it doesn’t fit. I’ve rewatched a series of videos on YouTube and I had completely missed that detail. None of the tower coolers covered in those videos actually require having a fan flush with the back of the case, hence them fitting. I found a guy on Reddit who managed to fit a Ninja 5 in a NR200 but he only managed to do it because his motherboard doesn’t have a heatsink and so he was able to bring the back fan lower than the top of the IO shield.
I wish I had noticed it earlier but now I understand why the NR200 ships with a 90mm fan!
All medium/high performance coolers seem to have some sort of clearance issue, either with the top fans, the side bracket or the PSU mount. Should cooler master had made this case 3-5mm wider, it would have been one of - if not the most - versatile sff case. As is though and potential cooling leaks apart, I feel that this case is far better suited for water cooling.
It’s disappointing but I am considering re-transplanting everything back to the Lian li Tu150 which I believe is a better suited case for air cooling.
If anyone in London, UK is interested in a white NR200P, let me know
you see, you literally had the same issue as me at first I was thinking of getting lian Li TU150 but glad that I didn't because of the new rtx card designs having a top fan to exhaust that hot air is a must so I recommend you keeping the nr200p
believe me you can always find a way to sort it out, I have a fuma 2 which really needs a third fan at the back if I ever want to oc, so i think I can mount 90mm fan outside the case while the cooler in exhaust position i didn't do this yet though
I’ll try to post a few photos tomorrow but unlike the fuma 2 that has one of its heatsinks flush with the back of the case and the fan after that, the Ninja 5 has the fan flush and then the heatsink. There’s literally not enough space between the top of the IO shield and the edge of the case, to fit a 120mm fan.
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But....this guy fit a Ninja 5 with both fans...
https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/ib24sc/nr200_with_big_air_cooling_build_log_in_comments/
https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/ib24sc/nr200_with_big_air_cooling_build_log_in_comments/
First there are a number of larger air coolers that work fine with the NR200 including the Noctua U12A, C14S and Scythe Fuma 2. In a video on big air cooling Sheen at Machines and More noted that the Fuma 2 was a solid cooler choice for the case and he called the C14S the "honey badger" of air coolers for this case.
Adding a few more mm might not sound like much but would have pulled the case out of the sub 20L category that is craved by most SFF builders.
Right now, as is the NR200 is one of the most versatile cases for SFF building.
Well, there are three but each has its own set of compromises. The U12A touches the side vented panel and doesn’t fit with the glass panel. The C14S cannot have the fan it comes with mounted underneath the heatsink, requires purchasing a second fan and restricts the use of a top case fan. Not to mention the skin coloured fans of the Noctua coolers. The Fuma 2 seems to be the option with less compromises but it cannot handle higher TDP CPUs when overclocked.
I watched all his videos multiple times and think that he is doing a great job at documenting everything and producing these informative and very enjoyable videos. I’ve reached out to him in YouTube and it turns out that he is working on thermals comparison between the NR200 and the TU150.
With regards to the C14S, isn’t it one of the “honley” options?
Adding a few millimetres of width would still keep the case in the sub 20L category. Look at the TU150... it’s under 20L and if they were to replace the top handle with a vented panel, add more ventilation holes to the side panels and find space for 240/280 radiators, it would become the most versatile SFF case.
I really believe that the NR200 and the TU150 are one of the most versatile cases, right now. The thing is that the NR200 seems to favour water cooling while the TU150 favours air cooling. None is a Jack of all trades but I agree that the NR200 is slightly more versatile, should one not need any of the larger air coolers.
I’ll wait for Machines and more’s new comparison video before I make a decision but in the meantime and since I already have a few Scythe fans, I might give the Fuma 2 a go. I was thinking of replacing the slim fan it comes with a 25mm version and use the slim fan as a top case fan should a 25mm not fit.
Don’t get me wrong. I really wanted this case to work for me. It’s just a shame that it’s not a few millimetres wider. I’ve seen another post somewhere, mentioning a 3D printed extension for it. Since Cooler master seen to be providing 3D printing options, it sounds like a great addition.
He did and that’s the guy I was referring to. The only reason why he managed to fit it os because his motherboard (Strix B450-I) doesn’t have one of those tall heatsinks with the embedded I/O shield. This way, he was able to drop the back fan just enough to make it fit. I am about to post a few example photos so keep an eye on the thread.
I had another look and there’s no way that 120mm fan would fit in the case, with my motherboard.
Here are three photos illustrating the issue I am having and the reason why I believe anyone using a motherboard with an integrated I/O shield will have the same issue.
https://imgur.com/gallery/lsaR7hA
Let me know if I missed anything as I would really want to keep my NR200.
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Like @far from home says, you can try with the fan on the outside, but that does mean you'll have an ugly fan outside the case instead of neatly inside. Can you not mount the 92mm fan on the case instead? Or does the CPU get too hot with the 92mm fan instead of a 120mm fan?
Like @far from home says, you can try with the fan on the outside, but that does mean you'll have an ugly fan outside the case instead of neatly inside. Can you not mount the 92mm fan on the case instead? Or does the CPU get too hot with the 92mm fan instead of a 120mm fan?
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what about noctua nf-a9x14 chromax, its only 14mm it can barely be visible.