Nurburgring - German Grand Prix 2009 - Race 9/17

It shouldn't be anyone with previous links to a current F1 team.

Why limit yourself to discounting just folks with links to current F1 teams? F1 isn't the only series the FIA has a hand in. Why not anyone with links to a current sports/GT car team? Or links to a current WRC team?
 
So we want someone with no experience as opposed to the most experience to fill the position? Hmmm...
 
Actually, I just thought - you guys probably don't want Ari Vatanen in the role then, since he was at Peugeot's rally team at the same time as....*drumroll*....Jean Todt.
 
Dear God in heaven how??? How could he possibly be worse than Mad Max?

Because his big recent involvement with Ferrari (who rightly or wrongly were very close to the FIA already - also the recommendation from Max is worrying).

You need experience but not someone who could be biased as well.
 
Why limit yourself to discounting just folks with links to current F1 teams? F1 isn't the only series the FIA has a hand in. Why not anyone with links to a current sports/GT car team? Or links to a current WRC team?

Its the F1 bias in the FIA everyone moans about. Having a recent team leader of a current f1 team will do no good to balance that out.

How about Ron Dennis?

If the sport and FIA was run correctly we should neither care or hear the name of whoever gets it very often. The last thing F1 needs is another big ego in the job, so we have to hear more about them and the politics played out in the public eye rather than behind closed doors.
 
Because his big recent involvement with Ferrari (who rightly or wrongly were very close to the FIA already - also the recommendation from Max is worrying).

You need experience but not someone who could be biased as well.

So because he worked for Ferrari in the past he'll automatically be biased towards them?

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Personally, I'd rather Ari got the role. But I don't see Todt being biased towards Ferrari in his dealings with F1 if he did get the job - after all, he's likely to be under even more scrutiny due to his previous role with the team.
 
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So because he worked for Ferrari in the past he'll automatically be biased towards them?

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Personally, I'd rather Ari got the role. But I don't see Todt being biased towards Ferrari in his dealings with F1 if he did get the job - after all, he's likely to be under even more scrutiny due to his previous role with the team.

Not automatically, but it would be better to be safe and have someone who wasn't a team boss quite so recently as him doing the job.
 
I personally think Todt could do a good job, he strikes me as someone that enjoys racing first and foremost, and as mentioned his every move in regards to F1 would be scrutinised to see if there was any Ferrari Bias.

Plus it'd keep the Ferrari International Assistance people going, which in turn would lead to higher blood pressure for JRS and some amusing posts, win-win really :p

Ari would be better though...
 
Not automatically, but it would be better to be safe and have someone who wasn't a team boss quite so recently as him doing the job.

Well, how many layers of seperation d'you want? As I noted earlier, Vatanen is a former colleague of Todt. Most people who would be good for the role are probably friendly with former and current team members in the sport. At what point do we stop saying "OMG they could be biased!" and say "yeah, they know their stuff, they'd be good at the job"?

Mad Max 'endorsing' Todt is more than likely a neat ploy to get any bid from Todt nerfed. Who'd vote for someone who Mad Max wanted to see in the role? Maybe we should go further afield for our man. Time to dust off the old Car & Driver campaign I think:

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DAN GURNEY FOR PRESIDENT!
 
So you think any recent team boss (say Ron Dennis) would be completely impartial? I think not.

I think it would have to be someone who has not be involved in one company for a long period. E.g. someone like Mike Gascoigne (and others like him) who has been around a bit and has experience but would be more impartial than a team boss of 20 years or something.
 
I agree but Gascoigne would be far from impartial. His fallouts in the pitlane have always been pretty epic and he's known as a rottweiler. Even the circumstances of his involvement with the current Brawn are rumoured to have ended in a fallout.

Again I don't see why it has to be such a high profile figure, I'm sure there are plenty of people currently working at the FIA that could do a great job without a 'name'.

Schumacher could do a great job to improve driving standards, jow about him ;)
 
That would be the same Ferrari that he resigned from, huh? ;).

Just because he had done all he could in his position (and there wasnt any position higher) doesnt mean he doesnt like the company itself

It would show a HUGE amount of favouritism to Ferrari if he was elected FIA President

Last time I looked Peageot (or Citreon for that matter) have no links to F1 so it makes no difference what so ever about his past role(s) with them

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So we want someone with no experience as opposed to the most experience to fill the position? Hmmm...

Not at all - but we want someone who can PROVE to be independant rather than being an Ex employee for a decade or two

Actually, I just thought - you guys probably don't want Ari Vatanen in the role then, since he was at Peugeot's rally team at the same time as....*drumroll*....Jean Todt.

As a driver surely - and even then it must have been 15+ years ago , and as stated Peageot have **** to do with F1 - the claimed FIA 's jewel in the crown. Completely different to being the boss of an F1 team less than 2 before being "elected" as head of the FIA
 
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It would show a HUGE amount of favouritism to Ferrari if he was elected FIA President

And Peugeot don't forget, since he used to work for them too. Can't have bias towards Peugeot if they enter a FIA operated series.

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Just read your edit. You can't limit yourself to just F1 - the FIA are involved in a wide range of series. The best man for the role if F1 was the only consideration might be biased towards teams in other forms of motorsport, after all :)
 
And Peugeot don't forget, since he used to work for them too. Can't have bias towards Peugeot if they enter a FIA operated series.

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Just read your edit. You can't limit yourself to just F1 - the FIA are involved in a wide range of series. The best man for the role if F1 was the only consideration might be biased towards teams in other forms of motorsport, after all :)

As stated - F1 is the diamond in the crown, not only that but Ari gave his position up at Peageot 15 - 20 years ago or something, its not like it was the season before last as it was for Todt

If anything the FIA need to show they are biased AWAY from Ferrari, and that certainly wont happen if Todt is at the head.
 
dont think he has a hope in **** of getting anywhere - but I guess its worth a shot
That depends on his contract, doesn't it?

If he has a signed contract to the end of the year without any additional stuff stating he must do X or get YX points maybe he has a point.
 
That depends on his contract, doesn't it?

If he has a signed contract to the end of the year without any additional stuff stating he must do X or get YX points maybe he has a point.

Of course it does - but given that TR / RB have been around for years, its highly unlikely that they cant sack him for bad performance (ie that their contract is water tight)
 
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