Nurse arrested for murdering babies

Wizzkidy said:
huh? in normal circumstances they don't prosecute someone without thinking they have done the crime and of course they are going to want a conviction.
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It's a bit more nuanced than that. Their stated aim is not simply to secure convictions at any cost, but rather to build the strongest cases possible so that justice can be served. The CPS does have to believe there is enough evidence for a realistic prospect of conviction before prosecuting, but they are also tasked with objectively reviewing the evidence and considering whether a prosecution is in the public interest.

There are strict codes of conduct and accountability measures in place to prevent overzealous prosecutions.
 
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Cant express support or otherwise for the verdict without seeing the main evidence points myself.

One thing worth commenting on though, is that there were 22 separate incidents according to the news and 7 of those have been declared murder. It seems a bit odd to me, its very likely if she did 7 then she did all of them. I believe from the reporting that 4 were undecided and 2 were declared not guilty - on what basis can she be not guilty of 2 counts but guilty without doubt of 7?
 
danlightbulb said:
One thing worth commenting on though, is that there were 22 separate incidents according to the news and 7 of those have been declared murder. It seems a bit odd to me, its very likely if she did 7 then she did all of them. I believe from the reporting that 4 were undecided and 2 were declared not guilty - on what basis can she be not guilty of 2 counts but guilty without doubt of 7?
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Absolutely agree!
 
Wizzkidy said:
Why is it? I will happily say throw away the key if they had evidence that she ACUTALLY murders these babies
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why do you deserve to have the evidence/full details of the case? The jurors have seen it and convicted based on what's been presented. Case closed presently.

edit, well closed depending on whether the prosecution decide go for a retrial on the six undecided counts
 
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Wizzkidy said:
Yes posting a link with no discussion really adds to the thread:rolleyes:

None of this witch hunt article suggest she killed these babies, of course now she has been found guilty every man and his dog are going to think that keeping some mementos and pictures of notes to the parents of the babies she may of cared for makes her a monster.
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And you're calling it a witch hunt without having sat through months of evidence. The jury were convinced.

As said by others, we will likely never see the full details, you have to trust that the jury got it right. If there are grounds for appeal, then her legal team will be on it.
 
C Kent said:
why do you deserve to have the evidence/full details of the case? The jurors have seen it and convicted based on what's been presented. Case closed presently.
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Personally I think all cases should be made public after trials. It would help transparency of decision making especially for cases such as that guy recently who was wrongfully imprisoned. I forget his name but he was locked up for some time despite there being new evidence that wasn't properly considered. If that was all public, it would put the pressure on the right places to act.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
They have evidence for 7 murders so that key can go missing
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And I think that evidence should be released, nothing I read about this case suggested they had hard proof she did this, it was all circumstantial. The guy who was locked up wrongly they had new evidence only 3 YEARS after he went down that it wasn't him, and he stayed in prison for over 10 years more!
 
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I can't help believing that given the long time period and the sheer number of murders and attempted murders some fellow staff had no strong suspicions that were either not shred or if shared, not acted upon, for "reasons".

"Reasons" usually being self serving rather than altruistic....
 
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I did jury service once. The case was a stabbing. The stuff the prosecution have but can't tell you because it breaches some technicality is unreal. In the end we found him not guilty, not because we thought he was innocent, but it was clear that all the witnesses including the 'victim' were all lying through their teeth about everything.

My view of the whole thing can be summed up as the CPS should never have brought the case, it was an epic waste of time and resources and the whole evidence was poor quality.
 
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Chris Wilson said:
I can't help believing that given the long time period and the sheer number of murders and attempted murders some fellow staff had no strong suspicions that were either not shred or if shared, not acted upon, for "reasons".

"Reasons" usually being self serving rather than altruistic....
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Details on that have been released. Some doctors and paediatricians who raised concerns about her were forced to apologise to her by top bosses and silenced/threatened.
 
Ayahuasca said:
Details on that have been released. Some doctors and paediatricians who raised concerns about her were forced to apologise to her by top bosses and silenced/threatened.
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The NHS and BMA, along with the legal profession are such true experts in cover ups to protect their so called professionalism that it's untrue. What you say comes as no surprise to me at all, sadly.
 
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