Nurse arrested for murdering babies

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neocon said:
Why was she allowed to continue working?

This gets worse day by day

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Lucy Letby trial - latest: Nurse 'adamant' she's done nothing to harm any of the babies in the case as defence begins

Latest updates on day four of the Lucy Letby trial, with the prosecution showing the court handwritten "confessions" from the nurse in which she allegedly admitted she was "evil", and the defence saying the hospital was "well out of its depth". Letby denies all charges.
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I've been involved in 4 national headline cases in 12 years and it can take a while before other Clinicians realise something is wrong before they whistleblow. Sadly baby RIPs are normal but identifying a certain person was present during several of them takes a while for someone to figure it out.
 
neocon said:
Why was she allowed to continue working?

This gets worse day by day

news.sky.com

Lucy Letby trial - latest: Nurse 'adamant' she's done nothing to harm any of the babies in the case as defence begins

Latest updates on day four of the Lucy Letby trial, with the prosecution showing the court handwritten "confessions" from the nurse in which she allegedly admitted she was "evil", and the defence saying the hospital was "well out of its depth". Letby denies all charges.
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Sounds like the consultants knew something was off and involved the police.
 
Rilot said:
I just cannot fathom why anyone could even consider deliberately killing a baby.
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God knows but I remember with Beverley Allit it was suspected Munchausen syndrome by proxy - so she enjoyed jumping into the middle of a family tragedy (that she'd caused obviously) for the attention she'd receive as she supported the family.
 
cheesefest said:
Records have to be looked into and see if there’s a person each time an incident happened. This what happened with Allitt
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However if the Clinician hasn't logged themselves against the patient it gets harder to prove.
One of the cases I worked on the Clinician didn't fill a lot of records in such as appointments and operation notes.
It is the bane of my life when I can't find records.
 
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Doctor interrupted nurse Lucy Letby’s attempt to kill newborn baby, court told

Consultant had started to link Letby to unexplained deaths and rushed to help infant, jury hears
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A “cold-blooded” nurse was trying to kill a 98-minute-old baby when she was interrupted by a doctor who had started to link her to unexplained deaths, a court heard.

Lucy Letby, 32, was standing over the incubator of a newborn girl whose oxygen levels had fallen “dangerously” low when a colleague walked in, a jury was told.


Ravi Jayaram, a paediatric consultant, had been “uncomfortable” that Letby was alone with the 12-week premature baby because he had “started to notice a coincidence between unexplained deaths, serious collapses and the presence of Lucy Letby”, the trial at Manchester crown court heard.

Jayaram rushed to help the infant and found that her chest was not moving and her breathing tube had been dislodged, it was alleged.

Letby was “making no effort to help” the baby and had not called for assistance, jurors were told, while an alarm connected to the infant appeared to have been silenced.

Jayaram was “troubled” because Letby was the only person in the room, the court heard. He did not make a contemporaneous note of his suspicions or about the alarm failing to activate, the trial before judge Sir James Goss was told.

The baby, who can only be named as Baby K, died three days later after another incident when Letby was at her side.
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So that guy had suspicions, found her in a compromising situation but didn't write anything down and then left her to potentially kill that baby 3 days later.

Someone else should be in front of a judge.
 
Dis86 said:
It's unreal. Staggering incompetence and disregard of safeguarding procedures.
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The thing I'm finding hard is they clearly had suspicions and moved Letby, who they thought the likely perpetrator was, off night shifts on day shifts and the deaths continued. I find it amazing that this was allowed to happen and wonder if they were guided by the police in an attempt to more clearly identify the perpetrator perhaps? Ethically though I find that hard to tally, how could you continue to put babies at risk knowing you had a likely murderer on the unit?
 
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Minstadave said:
The thing I'm finding hard is they clearly had suspicions and moved who they thought the likely perpetrator was off night shifts on day shifts and the deaths continued. I find it amazing that this was allowed to happen and wonder if they were guided by the police in an attempt to more clearly identify the perpetrator. Ethically though I find that hard to tally, how could you continue to put babies at risk knowing you had a likely murderer on the unit?
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I can't see anyone risking lives like that to try and identify a potential killer. Especially those of babies. This just seems to be multiple systematic failures (again tbh) but some massive individual culpability there.

Edit: just spoken to my Mrs and put that scenario to her. She pointed out as a teacher if they had an equivalent interaction and didn't report it she would no longer be allowed to teach as a minimum and would probably be in prison.
 
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Minstadave said:
The thing I'm finding hard is they clearly had suspicions and moved Letby, who they thought the likely perpetrator was, off night shifts on day shifts and the deaths continued. I find it amazing that this was allowed to happen and wonder if they were guided by the police in an attempt to more clearly identify the perpetrator perhaps? Ethically though I find that hard to tally, how could you continue to put babies at risk knowing you had a likely murderer on the unit?
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I haven’t seen coverage on the case so maybe there is some information I am missing. Your post has the luxury of hindsight, which is that you know that those deaths were malice and not incompetence, and that is something they may not have known at the time.
 
Chuk_Chuk said:
I haven’t seen coverage on the case so maybe there is some information I am missing. Your post has the luxury of hindsight, which is that you know that those deaths were malice and not incompetence, and that is something they may not have known at the time.
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Absolutely but I also have worked on neonatal units for many years and find the whole situation very strange. I suspect the must have been a huge mental barrier to suspecting a colleague could be doing harm intentionally.
 
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