Nursery Worker admits sex abuse

The Mad Rapper · 2 Oct 2009 at 20:30

dirtydog said:
I appreciate that. I daresay most people feel the same, which is why these people, especially the nursery worker will probably not be safe when they get out, rightly or wrongly.

I agree completely.

In a way, it's great Judges are able to separate emotion from the facts. I could not deal with this properly as either a Judge or Juror, I am far too emotional when it comes to people hurting children.

I think the fact I am this way is probably due to having an abusive alcoholic Father, who used to regularly beat up my Mum, my two sisters and me.

I spend every day trying to be the best Dad I can to my kids.

*Goes off to cry having opened up on a public forum*

Nitefly · 2 Oct 2009 at 20:36

What a vile bunch of individuals, utterly repulsive and inhumane behaviour.

The Mad Rapper said:
I think the fact I am this way is probably due to having an abusive alcoholic Father, who used to regularly beat up my Mum, my two sisters and me.

I spend every day trying to be the best Dad I can to my kids.

*Goes off to cry having opened up on a public forum*

Yikes. That's awful, you have my most sincere sympathies. Focus your love on your children and celebrate the life you have now

knip · 2 Oct 2009 at 20:36

dirtydog said:
I appreciate that. I daresay most people feel the same, which is why these people, especially the nursery worker will probably not be safe when they get out, rightly or wrongly.

The scum that they are will probably be given new identities and protected for the rest of their lives. :mad:

(*hugs* Mad rapper)

dirtydog · 2 Oct 2009 at 20:38

knip said:
The scum that they are will probably be given new identities and protected for the rest of their lives.

Do you approve of mob rule and vigilante violence?

knip · 2 Oct 2009 at 20:43

dirtydog said:
Do you approve of mob rule and vigilante violence?

I dont approve of paedophiles and support the death penalty in cases such as this. Vigilante violence on innocent members of the public and vigilante violence on disgusting beings such as this is a completely different thing.

dirtydog · 2 Oct 2009 at 20:45

knip said:
I dont approve of paedophiles and support the death penalty in cases such as this. Vigilante violence on innocent members of the public and vigilante violence on disgusting beings such as this is a completely different thing.

So you would support these people being violently attacked upon release, even though they will have served their time? :confused:

knip · 2 Oct 2009 at 20:47

dirtydog said:
So you would support these people being violently attacked upon release, even though they will have served their time?

Yes I would, would save the country a hell of a lot of money, those children weren't protected against them, so why should we pay to protect them. Heck give them a rope and let them hang themselves now. Sorry but that's just how I feel, it makes me feel physically sick to think what they did and they deserve everything they get.

Nitefly · 2 Oct 2009 at 20:48

knip said:
Yes I would, would save the country a hell of a lot of money, those children weren't protected against them, so why should we pay to protect them. Heck give them a rope and let them hang themselves now. Sorry but that's just how I feel, it makes me feel physically sick to think what they did and they deserve everything they get.

It's the justice system, not the vengeance system.

knip · 2 Oct 2009 at 20:50

Nitefly said:
It's the justice system, not the vengeance system.

Wheres the justice in them being allowed to be free after what they have done? Where is the justice in that woman refusing to name the children she abused so that their parents are left wondering for the rest of their lives?

You think its right then they are allowed back on the streets in however many years? Do you have children? Would you ever want them back on the streets after what they have done? They had competitions between themselves to see who could commit the worst offence and then you think they deserve to be free one day?

dirtydog · 2 Oct 2009 at 20:50

knip said:
Yes I would, would save the country a hell of a lot of money, those children weren't protected against them, so why should we pay to protect them. Heck give them a rope and let them hang themselves now. Sorry but that's just how I feel, it makes me feel physically sick to think what they did and they deserve everything they get.

What about after they serve their time and are released from jail - it won't save any money then.

I might like to see burglars and muggers put to death. Other people would like drink drivers to be executed.

I think we should let the courts do their job and once someone has served their sentence, they have a right to live without being attacked. Anything else is not a civilised society.

knip · 2 Oct 2009 at 20:52

dirtydog said:
What about after they serve their time and are released from jail - it won't save any money then.

As I said though, due to the severity of this case I would expect them to receive new identities and be protected at a cost to the tax payer for the rest of their lives, in the same way the James Bulger murderers have had. Free to walk the streets and we are all paying for it. Where is the justice in that?

dirtydog · 2 Oct 2009 at 20:54

knip said:
As I said though, due to the severity of this case I would expect them to receive new identities and be protected at a cost to the tax payer for the rest of their lives, in the same way the James Bulger murderers have had. Free to walk the streets and we are all paying for it. Where is the justice in that?

Probably cheaper than protecting them with a constant police presence, or letting them be killed and then paying to jail their murderers for 15 years.

knip · 2 Oct 2009 at 20:55

We shall agree to differ then I guess.

Nitefly · 2 Oct 2009 at 20:56

dirtydog said:
I think we should let the courts do their job and once someone has served their sentence, they have a right to live without being attacked. Anything else is not a civilised society.

I concur.

Deific · 2 Oct 2009 at 22:50

Tbh I would be in major support of paramilitaries in this country as long as innocent people would definetly not be targetted.

pumaz · 2 Oct 2009 at 23:08

I would rather my taxes are spent on 3 x lethal injections than food and board for the next 6yrs at HM Prison.

Tombo · 2 Oct 2009 at 23:49

Topics such as this show how civilised some apparently civilised people aren't.

Vonhelmet · 3 Oct 2009 at 00:22

pumaz said:
I would rather my taxes are spent on 3 x lethal injections than food and board for the next 6yrs at HM Prison.

You mean you suddenly think the appeals process would take less than 6 years?

Vonhelmet · 3 Oct 2009 at 00:22

Deific said:
Tbh I would be in major support of paramilitaries in this country as long as innocent people would definetly not be targetted.

Haha. That's one hell of a caveat.

Tefal · 3 Oct 2009 at 00:23

pumaz said:
I would rather my taxes are spent on 3 x lethal injections than food and board for the next 6yrs at HM Prison.

ignoring the decade or so on death row and the millions in court costs?