Nursery Worker admits sex abuse

The Halk · 2 Oct 2009 at 18:34

dirtydog said:
How is he wrong? He didn't say everyone will find this crime forgivable, merely that it isn't unforgivable per se - nothing is. Not while there is one person out there who can find the capacity to forgive.

Christ I sound like a bible basher

Tree hugger.

dangerstat · 2 Oct 2009 at 18:36

It's a terrible crime. I think the law should be very clear that the younger the child abused the more horrendous the crime, and the resultant punishment should be. In my opinion crimes like these are justifications for bringing back capital punishment - they should be shot (preferably in the parts they abused of the children).

On whether all crimes are forgivable - I completely disagree. Crime rarely affects only those directly affected - so the children and family of those children in this case. It has a much wider impact - trust in Nursery staff for example.

I think some people seem to believe that once those directly affected by a crime have forgiven the criminal it's all suddenly okay - like they have to power to somehow make the them innocent, they can't. It's obvious from this thread that many members on here will NEVER forgive these individuals, serving 5,10, or 40 years doesn't reverse the crime or make them "forgiven" it's simply our legal system at work - and completely and utterly independant of the peoples feelings.

Personally I'd never forgive a person who could abuse children - no matter how much time they spent in jail for their crimes. So by that logic none of these people will EVER be forgiven for their crimes.

^TANK^ · 2 Oct 2009 at 18:36

Fingers crossed they are handed around in prison like a dirty old masturbation sock

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MattU · 2 Oct 2009 at 18:37

I'd say having the capacity to forgive someone who had done this is a fault rather than a virtue.

.one. · 2 Oct 2009 at 18:37

vonhelmet said:
All crimes are forgivable. Whether you have the capacity to forgive is your problem.

Not a problem for me what's so ever.

dirtydog · 2 Oct 2009 at 18:38

dangerstat said:
Personally I'd never forgive a person who could abuse children - no matter how much time they spent in jail for their crimes. So by that logic none of these people will EVER be forgiven for their crimes.

...if everyone in the world thinks exactly like you do.

Busa · 2 Oct 2009 at 18:39

vonhelmet said:
All crimes are forgivable.

So on a personal level have you or will you forgive them for what they have done?....i could happily slaughter all three :mad:

dirtydog · 2 Oct 2009 at 18:39

MattU said:
I'd say having the capacity to forgive someone who had done this is a fault rather than a virtue.

There is an argument that forgiving someone is cathartic, it helps you move on and let go of the bad feelings and the hate inside you, which are negative feelings to carry around for the rest of your life.

This might help explain why some rape victims themselves are able to forgive their attackers.

Deific · 2 Oct 2009 at 18:40

genitals removed imo

^TANK^ · 2 Oct 2009 at 18:44

Von Smallhausen said:
I do hope the judge takes a dim view as well.

I expect no less that a 10 year sentence for such depraved acts and a shocking breach of trust.

If I had my way they would be serving 20 minimum. I try to remain professional and calm but I feel such anger at predatory vermin such as them.

A child's innocence must be protected and when that fails, the judiciary must make examples of them with very tough sentencing.

While some may argue a breach of human rights at lenghthy sentences, I tend to think that when you commit grave and depraved acts against children then you should lose the vast majority of those rights.

I only hope the young children who are not identified are too young to be affected. If that wretched female who worked in the nursery had a shred of decency or remorse then she would co-operate with the police and identify the children who were abused.

Why not life sentences Von Smallhausen :confused:

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Lightnix · 2 Oct 2009 at 18:49

For me there is no forgiveness without a cause. How can you forgive somebody who might do it again? I mean for some things I find it's alright to forgive people just because the action becomes so insignificant over time, but for something like this the attacker would really have to push the boat out - like say offer to willingly stay away from young children (Whilst also accepting some repurcussions for breaking this) for the rest of their lives and pay to get one of the kids through university. Something like that, that would show not only do they regret their actions, but they wish to go some way towards bettering the life of the person whose they violated and also prevent themselves from potentially doing so to another.

I'm not sure how you can forgive somebody 'just because' when they've done something so heinous.

Vonhelmet · 2 Oct 2009 at 19:23

dirtydog said:
How is he wrong? He didn't say everyone will find this crime forgivable, merely that it isn't unforgivable per se - nothing is. Not while there is one person out there who can find the capacity to forgive.

Christ I sound like a bible basher

What he said.

Chimerical · 2 Oct 2009 at 19:35

^TANK^ said:
Fingers crossed they are handed around in prison like a dirty old masturbation sock.

Yeah...so now "standard" rapists suddenly take the moral high ground?

Honestly, what is it that people see in this "they'll get molested in prison" thing that's so beneficial?

Don't forget the women who are somehow likely to rape her could quite possibly be in there for sex crimes themselves.

So all your advocating is that they get pleasure at the expense of someone who is just as bad as them.

Vonhelmet · 2 Oct 2009 at 19:36

Chimerical said:
Yeah...so now "standard" rapists suddenly take the moral high ground?

Honestly, what is it that people see in this "they'll get molested in prison" thing that's so beneficial?

Don't forget the women who are somehow likely to rape her could quite possibly be in there for sex crimes themselves.

So all your advocating is that they get pleasure at the expense of someone who is just as bad as them.

BUT THEY'RE PAEDO'S!!!!!

^TANK^ · 2 Oct 2009 at 19:37

Well as long as they all suffer in the end like a domino rape effect, I'll be happy

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dirtydog · 2 Oct 2009 at 19:38

Chimerical said:
Yeah...so now "standard" rapists suddenly take the moral high ground?

Honestly, what is it that people see in this "they'll get molested in prison" thing that's so beneficial?

Don't forget the women who are somehow likely to rape her could quite possibly be in there for sex crimes themselves.

So all your advocating is that they get pleasure at the expense of someone who is just as bad as them.

PEDO LOVER :rolleyes:

G-MAN2004 · 2 Oct 2009 at 19:45

Shocking.

She pleaded not guilty to one charge of sexual assault which was ordered by the judge to lie on file.

Maybe I'm being stupid, but what does that mean?

sturmtruppe · 2 Oct 2009 at 19:51

Look at it this way, why should my tax money be used to feed and shelter genetic throwbacks like that? I feel dirty just thinking about it.

this is a situation where some harsh punishment third reich style is in order.

The Mad Rapper · 2 Oct 2009 at 20:23

dirtydog said:
How is he wrong? He didn't say everyone will find this crime forgivable, merely that it isn't unforgivable per se - nothing is. Not while there is one person out there who can find the capacity to forgive.

Christ I sound like a bible basher

If you/he are saying that no crime is unforgivable for some people, then fine, I'll accept that.

However, for me some crimes are unforgivable.

Specifically focusing on this scenario, as a parent, had this happened to one of my children, not only would I not forgive, I'd do time. I am sure that at least some of the parents involved in this situation will feel likewise.

dirtydog · 2 Oct 2009 at 20:26

I appreciate that. I daresay most people feel the same, which is why these people, especially the nursery worker will probably not be safe when they get out, rightly or wrongly.