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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Not sure if you need a new power supply with a new connector for these rumoured 600w cards? Do they work with existing power supplies if you have enough headroom already?
Yes, the 3080 FE has the 12 pin connector that can provide up to 600W, but Nvidia provide an adaptor for 2 PCIE 8 pin connectors in the box so it should be fine.
 
Yes, the 3080 FE has the 12 pin connector that can provide up to 600W, but Nvidia provide an adaptor for 2 PCIE 8 pin connectors in the box so it should be fine.
Cheers and glad I got a 1200 watt PSU now! I thought power requirements might get ridiculously high a couple of years ago.
 
I wouldn't be buying any card that consumes 500W+ on its own. With serious increases in electricity costs, cardmakers need to concentrate on efficiency to entice me. Don't want to worry about pc costs on top of the painful driving costs we have these days.
 
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I wouldn't be buying any card than consumes 500W+ on its own. With serious increases in electricity costs, cardmakers need to concentrate on efficiency to entice me.

electricity is not so expensive elsewhere so doesn't sound like a Nvidia/amd problem
 
(Ampere) GA102 has 40% more SM than GA103
(Ada Lovelace) AD102 has 71% more SM than AD103

RTX 3090Ti ( GA102 84SM) has 75% more SM than RTX 3070Ti (GA 104 48SM)

What is my point ? That the SM ratio between AD102-AD103 is similar to GA102-GA104.

So we can deducate that RTX 4070 will get AD103 chip ( probably cut down, so 80-82SM)
 
I wouldn't be buying any card that consumes 500W+ on its own. With serious increases in electricity costs, cardmakers need to concentrate on efficiency to entice me. Don't want to worry about pc costs on top of the painful driving costs we have these days.

Imo it's not too bad so long as the card can regulate its power states adequately. This is something where Nvidia has failed massively in with Ampere, but RDNA 2 has excelled at. When I play something heavy like Cyberpunk I let my 6800 go push all that 250w, but for the most part in other games it hovers closer to 100w and I also adjust accordingly for best PPW. That happened very naturally by just lowering reso scale/settings or setting a framecap; for Ampere this would've required active clock management and more involved power tuning with other utilities - unacceptable imo. So I wouldn't be bothered if the next card would do 500w for the insane RT scenarios where the card has to fire on all cylinders, so long as it can also down-power appropriately so that it stays closer to, e.g. 100w in the less demanding games.
 
Not sure if it has been posted but...

NVIDIA RTX 4060 to Feature Ray Tracing Performance on Par w/ RTX 3090, RTX 4070 to be 10-30% Faster than the RTX 3090 Overall [RUMOR]

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidi...10-30-faster-than-the-rtx-3090-overall-rumor/

If true.... oh dear, 3090 owners better get selling quick @TNA ;) :cry: :p :D Suspect we'll see a repeat of what happened with the 2080ti owners not being able to get more than £400-500 at most because of the 3070 perf and price....



Given I got my 3080 for MSRP, I'll probably pick up a 4070 or 4080 as if MSRP isn't much higher, in theory, the upgrade will cost me nothing or very little.... Would like to go amd but I can't see amd matching nvidias RT perf. not to mention, don't really want to lose dlss....

Power consumption is a bit of a concern now but ampere series of cards mostly undervolt extremely well, my 3080 doesn't use more than 275w at most, hopefully be the same for 40xx cards.
 
Not sure if it has been posted but...



https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidi...10-30-faster-than-the-rtx-3090-overall-rumor/

If true.... oh dear, 3090 owners better get selling quick @TNA ;) :cry: :p :D Suspect we'll see a repeat of what happened with the 2080ti owners not being able to get more than £400-500 at most because of the 3070 perf and price....



Given I got my 3080 for MSRP, I'll probably pick up a 4070 or 4080 as if MSRP isn't much higher, in theory, the upgrade will cost me nothing or very little.... Would like to go amd but I can't see amd matching nvidias RT perf. not to mention, don't really want to lose dlss....

Power consumption is a bit of a concern now but ampere series of cards mostly undervolt extremely well, my 3080 doesn't use more than 275w at most, hopefully be the same for 40xx cards.

:cry: We will see... stop using that clickbait site.:rolleyes:...
 
:cry: We will see... stop using that clickbait site.:rolleyes:...

Based on history, I don't think it is that far fetched tbh. I would say that's best case scenario though... I have no doubt ray tracing performance will be a good bit better than ampere and overall performance wise, I'm expecting a 4070 to match or slightly beat a 3090 with the 4080 beating a 3090 by 15-30%.
 
Suspect we'll see a repeat of what happened with the 2080ti owners not being able to get more than £400-500 at most because of the 3070 perf and price....

You mean for that week before the 30 series stock situation became apparent, and even used 2080Ti's started selling at way over RRP? Yeah that was funny. The suckers that sold in that week really screwed the pooch.
 
You mean for that week before the 30 series stock situation became apparent, and even used 2080Ti's started selling at way over RRP? Yeah that was funny. The suckers that sold in that week really screwed the pooch.
Yup :cry:

I defo won't be selling my 3080 until new card has arrived and doesn't show any issues for a solid month :cry:
 
My 320W RTX 3080 FE massively heats up my room and the components in my PC case. I can't imagine what 600W would do.

Its nuts isn't it, it'll have to be an LC unit aircooled isn't going to cut it 350W from a 3090 FE is bad enough the amount of heat it dumps in the case is insane I already had to switch to an LC unit for the cpu as it was being cooked but didn't notice the same happening to the RAM it doesn't have temp sensors, well it started randomly rebooting but always when gaming give it a minute or two and bam. Well it was the RAM slowly being killed by the heat from the gpu I've currently got a 12cm case fan jerry rigged with cable ties over them to stop them being fried. Theres no way on earth I'm going near a 600W air cooled FE card!
 
Its nuts isn't it, it'll have to be an LC unit aircooled isn't going to cut it 350W from a 3090 FE is bad enough the amount of heat it dumps in the case is insane I already had to switch to an LC unit for the cpu as it was being cooked but didn't notice the same happening to the RAM it doesn't have temp sensors, well it started randomly rebooting but always when gaming give it a minute or two and bam. Well it was the RAM slowly being killed by the heat from the gpu I've currently got a 12cm case fan jerry rigged with cable ties over them to stop them being fried. Theres no way on earth I'm going near a 600W air cooled FE card!
Wow, you've got it even worse than me and it's not as if we are using bad cases as enthusiasts. I am using one of the best for cooling on the market, the Phanteks P600S in airflow mode and my X570 chipset, NVME SSD and PCIE slot still get absolutely cooked by the hot air from this 3080 FE card according to HWInfo (I am not short of high quality Noctua fans either).

My RAM doesn't have sensors either but thankfully Micron E-Die is less sensitive to temperature than for instance Samsung B-Die.

My big Noctua NH-D15S CPU cooler may not be ideal for the 3080 FE cooler design as it blocks the airflow to an extent, but I'm sceptical that it's the culprit given your and others' experiences.
 
Have yous tried undervolting?


It's very easy to do and going by reports on here, reddit etc. seems the majority of people get very good results.
 
Not sure if it has been posted but...



https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidi...10-30-faster-than-the-rtx-3090-overall-rumor/

If true.... oh dear, 3090 owners better get selling quick @TNA ;) :cry: :p :D Suspect we'll see a repeat of what happened with the 2080ti owners not being able to get more than £400-500 at most because of the 3070 perf and price....



Given I got my 3080 for MSRP, I'll probably pick up a 4070 or 4080 as if MSRP isn't much higher, in theory, the upgrade will cost me nothing or very little.... Would like to go amd but I can't see amd matching nvidias RT perf. not to mention, don't really want to lose dlss....

Power consumption is a bit of a concern now but ampere series of cards mostly undervolt extremely well, my 3080 doesn't use more than 275w at most, hopefully be the same for 40xx cards.
Lol. Poor @gpuerrilla :cry:

Yea but to be fair those cards won’t have 24GB, which I hear you may need to be able to launch and play Far Cry 6 :p
 
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