There isn't really a standard length of time - depends on supply and how much or not it might be a "paper" launch. Generally from when the CEO of the company stands up on stage waving the card around you are looking at 1-2 months before they appear in pre-builds but supply might be another matter.
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Fair point and you’re probably right. Still think it’s starting to smell like new cards are imminent though, at least from Nvidia.
Can’t see AIB’s knocking a $1K off their top tier cards just to be nice, like EVGA have just done, albeit I don’t doubt that their sales have dropped for a whole multitude of reasons.
Power numbers are now rumoured to be much better at 320W for the 4080 and 285W for the 4070 (these leakers keep changing their minds), maybe the high power rumours were misinformation or Nvidia could have simply decided to change tack: https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-...er-specs-mysterious-20gb-model-also-mentioned
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Definitely more sane numbers...
I imagine Nvidia will find a way to segment them
. There are plenty of things they can do to make a card slower and anyway the 4080 is rumoured to be based on the bigger 103 chip vs the 104 in the 4070 (the latter may be clocked higher to meet performance targets, hence the higher power draw as you go beyond the sweetspot for efficiency).
Soldato
Information changes like the wind right now. Last one I watched they inferred the new lineup had weaker bandwidth this time although it could be offset using better ipc, bigger cache etc. Only going to see once people test them.
I think they just "leak" every possible configuration so atleast they'll get one right.
The extra cache worked for AMD last time which allowed them to use a cut down bus with more VRAM so it's not supprising if nvidia choose to go down that route as the flagship will need more VRAM this time around.
Soldato
What makes you say that?
There will be more games that push past 10gb over the next couple of years and while the 3080 will be less effected by this as it will need to lower settings anyway to stay above 60fps which in turn will reduce VRAM consumption the 4080 should stay above 60fps without the need to drop settings so would need atleast 12gb.
Seeing as AMD chose cache this is probably a stupid question, but what costs more, cache, or vram? I know that shrinks can offer more die space, but presumably using big chunks for cache has implications for performance which vram does not. In the Intel Arc video GN had awhile back, I think the engineer said using a bigger bus makes the die bigger so it makes everything cost more.
Is there actually any leakers or just sites fighting for eyeballs making stuff up?
The age of clickbait, any myths, rumours or BS can fly and make the same $$$ as if you did a proper good video.
everything is just going along with whatever rumour or creating their own for clicks and all these "sources" are figments of their imagination.
how can soo many sources be soo wrong in soo little time...
we've gone from like 800watts > 600 > 400 > 300 in the space of like a week
Gamers Nexus seems to be the only one not putting out any old crap rumours for content so far?
It's all speculation based on whatever unsubstantiated rumours kopkite et al post on their twitter as fact.
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They're going to have to rely on cache to mitigate the 256-bus. Memory speed should make up for the rest. And I'm gonna venture to guess nV will be much less vocal about 8k gaming this gen.
A bigger bus also uses more power.
Soldato
So basically copying AMD then gotcha!
Sounds like Intel
