Soldato
But but nvidia right? Whataboutism
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Caporegime
Well my Hogwarts key has just arrived, will be putting up some XTX and 4090 videos to see how good/bad the game runs.
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The ******* contest gets very tiring, gents.
Soldato
Im more interested in 1080p RT results to be fair, cause im pretty certain steve ***cked up. There is no way a 7700x suffers that badly from the nvidia overhead.
Soldato
Guess we know it runs bad already, but some vids as to how it runs now for comparison over the coming months, to see if they can/will optimize performance would be good. Or w'lle all need to accept an upgrade to a 5090 to play it.
Nvidia conditioning titles for FOMO's like me.
Already had NExus yesterday with talk like; 'Next Gen' games on UE5/5.1, upgrade FOMO conditioning language.
Off on holibobs - reigning in wife's spends, so can I save for FOMO 5090.
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Computerbase and pcgamershardware will hopefully have their results soon so we can see what is what, I suspect they are probably waiting for the day 1 patch.
So far Jansn and techpowerup have shown similar performance figures where everything ***** the bed and a 3080 actually does all right compared to rdna 2 and even rdna 3 especially when dlss/fsr is used......
Don't worry matt will have his fresh install of windows on, best components there is on the market all highly tuned and running custom bios etc. with the air conditioning unit right beside the pc to show how it performs lovely for him and how all review sites performance figures are wrong
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You're such a troll on these forums lol. If that's what LtMatt gets, great or do you call out other users for getting the best out of their systems and posting on OVERCLOCKERS UK.Don't worry matt will have his fresh install of windows on, best components there is on the market all highly tuned and running custom bios etc. with the air conditioning unit right beside the pc to show how it performs lovely for him and how all review sites performance figures are wrong
Strange with all the benchmark threads that have existed for more than a decade with users doing just that for the top spots.
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Caporegime
You can't just trivially swap engine versions like that. It takes a ton of work, and masses more to get the best of especially on bigger games. You need to decide early in the dev cycle which engine version to use.
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You're such a troll on these forums lol. If that's what LtMatt gets, great or do you call out other users for getting the best out of their systems and posting on OVERCLOCKERS UK.
Strange with all the benchmark threads that have existed for more than a decade with users doing just that for the top spots.
Thing is I'm not trolling, Matt has said that himself and even posted pics of an air con unit right beside his PC
But in all seriousness, I got no problem with that, it's just funny when these review sites are the source of truth when it comes to nvidia ******** the bed but when it comes to amd gpus, they're wrong as matt can get an extra 25+% from his setup
I mean, looking at these VRAM amounts it seems clear that RT isn't an option for about 90% of cards.Or it'll get tweaked so that vram/texture/asset is properly handled/switched/managed i.e. called optimisation, which is clearly lacking if people are having issues at 720p too.......
Unless you think that vram usage @ 1080P should be the same as 4k vram usage (which just to highlight shouldn't be happening if you know anything about how vram usage scales with your resolution)
Lowering the resolution makes little difference, we've still using over 13GB of VRAM.
We've seen this over and over with RT enabled, it uses a lot more VRAM in many titles.
I agree that they could probably improve the texture LOD or streaming system... But I don't expect much improvement.
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Even regardless of vram, it's not an option for 99% of gpus, even £1300+ ones unless you game at 1080p/1440p
On a more serious note, hopefully computerbase or/and pcgamershardware will get performance figures with dlss/fsr as "everyone" will be using these in hogwarts and will be a better representation for the masses
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Also when you have people who have set everything to low and playing at 720p getting drops to 10-20 fps, don't tell me that this is a case of just needing more vram........
I don't suspect there will be "much" improvement for probably 4k but there is certainly room for improvement at res. less than 4k.
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This is what Compuerbase.de said about enabling RT:
"GeForce RTX 4070 Ti does not have any performance problems in Ultra HD and DLSS Quality with otherwise full graphics quality, but the textures are not loaded for some objects, others disappear completely for a short time, since the engine is probably trying to fix the situation somehow to rescue".
So, the game doesn't seem to punish much for going over the VRAM budget (in performance terms).
"GeForce RTX 4070 Ti does not have any performance problems in Ultra HD and DLSS Quality with otherwise full graphics quality, but the textures are not loaded for some objects, others disappear completely for a short time, since the engine is probably trying to fix the situation somehow to rescue".
So, the game doesn't seem to punish much for going over the VRAM budget (in performance terms).
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UE4 is easily performant enough. This game's use of this engine is not the reason why GPUs are struggling in this title.
From the other thread.
Finally someone addressing the VRAM to price/power mismatch from Nvidia.
Timestamped link.
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I think unless you ok with low quality textures, playing games on medium to low settings, I would aim for at least 16 gig
VRAM now, and this includes RT fans as RT is proving to be a VRAM hog alongside textures.
Finally someone addressing the VRAM to price/power mismatch from Nvidia.
Timestamped link.
Hogwarts Legacy, GPU Benchmark: Obsoleting The RTX 3080 10GB
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youtu.be
I think unless you ok with low quality textures, playing games on medium to low settings, I would aim for at least 16 gig
VRAM now, and this includes RT fans as RT is proving to be a VRAM hog alongside textures.
If consoles became an open system, so basically cheat engine, unencrypted saves and mods, I think I would switch in a heart beat. PC gaming is more broken than usual right now. DLSS/FSR has done what I heard some predict a few years back which was to encourage devs to do less optimisation.
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The only thing here if that vram pic is telling a full story, is why don't 8gb cards like the 6600xt and 3070 fall off the edge of a cliff on their 4K results?
@4K the 6600xt still outperforms the 12gb 3060 (often the 6600xt falls behind the 3060 at 4K in many games), or why the 3070 is exactly the same performance as a 2080ti at 4K?
Do they have more stuttering problems? So far the couple of article on the stuttering just say "it happens even on top spec machines". Do they auto hit higher levels of compression?* Your linked picture's article doesn't go anywhere near that sort of speculation, bar just showing image quality screens for a single card - a 3080.
*this happens with the traditional path tracing programs I use. You hit your mem cap, then it has another pass and compresses the textues used in your scene to the next level until it either fits or crashes at max.
Something is possibly bugged with 'Arry Potter as the numbers seem to be all over the place atm. I'm more content with user results around here until review sites are posting in the realm of that when it comes to games that are displaying strange behaviour in results. The game is just released, it's just a matter of time and everything will become clear.Thing is I'm not trolling, Matt has said that himself and even posted pics of an air con unit right beside his PC
But in all seriousness, I got no problem with that, it's just funny when these review sites are the source of truth when it comes to nvidia ******** the bed but when it comes to amd gpus, they're wrong as matt can get an extra 25+% from his setup
If both top end Nvidia and AMD users in this forum (with similar CPUs) are posting results in the realm of what is being shown on review sites then that is a better indication of performance. Thinking that someone is constantly leaning towards bias is a bit strange, especially with LtMatt as he has both top end GPUs (4090/7900XTX) so I don't quite understand your problem with his results.But in all seriousness, I got no problem with that, it's just funny when these review sites are the source of truth when it comes to nvidia ******** the bed but when it comes to amd gpus, they're wrong as matt can get an extra 25+% from his setup
So far out of the complete benchmarks we have, jansn, tpu and hub, they are all using 32gb but the game does suffer worse performance if using 16gb ram with gpus that have <16gb vram
Essentially the game is a mess regardless of your spec
But yeah, we'll need to wait for DF/Alex to get a proper analysis on what is going on, however, not much point until the day 1 patch arrives to see if any issues do get fixed
Did you miss the bit I posted:
Again, no issue at all, just highlighting the above
Also, matt goes to the extreme of using liquid metal among many other tweaks, which most people even on this forum wouldn't do, after all, he doesn't get number 1 spot in various benchmarks (in the world too and not just on here) by keeping a stock system with only a mild overclock/undervolt Those figures are an embarrassment to the dev team of that game, also interestingly very different to HUB results.Yeah same here, until now there hasn't really been anything to justify the cost, with dlss and some settings sacrificed, 3080 still doing pretty well at 4k and 3440x1440, if more and more games end up performing like deliver us mars, hogwarts, forspoken then there isn't much choice but to buy something to be able to power its way through the ****** optimisation, that and having FG is a nice pro to have when so many games appear to have rubbish cpu utilization too
Hogwarts Legacy Benchmark Test & Performance Analysis Review - VRAM Usage Record
Hogwarts Legacy lets you relive the steps of Harry Potter and is a fantastic adaptation of the books. In our performance review, we're taking a closer look at image quality, differences between the graphical setting presets, VRAM usage, and performance on a selection of modern graphics cards.www.techpowerup.com
