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Old Wino said:
Guys - so I was thinking of pushing the boat out and snagging a 4080/4090 on a new PC price be damned etc. but then when picking a motherboard I learned about pcie gen 4/5 and boards are now putting in pcie gen 5 slots for graphics cards but the 4080 and 4090 are only gen 4... So now I'm thinking get a new PC but just put in a 3070 for now and go all out in 2 years time when GPU's are using pcie gen 5. Also going the AMD chipset route on the motherboard for longer upgradability periods.

Am I being clever? is this good thinking or will gen 5 GPU's not differ much from gen 4 anyway? thx in advance apologies if this is a dumb question..
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What resolution/hz display do you want to run? What's your shopping list so far?

PCI-E revisions are just an increased bandwidth that the slot can handle. All gens are backward compatible. Between gen 3&4 you may see 1fps difference.

If anything with the new Nvidia cards - maybe consider getting a PSU that is ATX 3 with a dedicated 12VHPWR connector. Neater than 3/4 PCI-E power cables. Yopu don't NEED one, but will look neater going forward.
 
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Woodsta888 said:
Console time.

Unless you are chasing high resolution hz panels then you don't need the latest and greatest, no where near.

If PC gaming has become too expensive then select a resolution to run that you can afford. Some of the ultrawides and 4k take lots of GPU horsepower. Muddied with technologies such as DLSS3 and Frame generation to chase these high resolutions and must have high fps.

2560x1440 will suit most gamers or 3440x1440 at a push. Much cheaper to run and still have decent IQ with high fps. Sweet spot apparently, cant tell the difference to 4k, RT is a waste, DLSS & Framegen is cheating.

Don't chase running high resolutions, particularly with new games on release = PC gaming affordability
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Agreed. I had a 4K screen (LG GP950) and a 3090 FE. It struggled to hit >144fps at 4K in most games so sold it and returned the screen and bought a 3060ti FE and 2K screen (LG GP850) and I get similar perf at 1440p as opposed to 4K with negligible (to my eyes) degradation of image quality and actual gaming performance.
 
I stuck with 1080p when I went super-wide 32:9 because it would be easier on hardware. Sitting at my desk, I am perfectly happy with 1080p.

In VR however, when the screen is right on my eyeballs, my 1080p CV1 Oculus Rift was just too pixelated. My HP Reverb is ~4K and that looks like a high-quality 1080p desktop experience.

It can be hard on hardware, but it's only got a 90HZ refresh rate, which I'm happy with.
 
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Twinz said:
I stuck with 1080p when I went super-wide 32:9 because it would be easier on hardware. Sitting at my desk, I am perfectly happy with 1080p.

In VR however, when the screen is right on my eyeballs, my 1080p CV1 Oculus Rift was just too pixelated. My HP Reverb is ~4K and that looks like a high-quality 1080p desktop experience.

It can be hard on hardware, but it's only got a 90HZ refresh rate, which I'm happy with.
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Yea I have a 4080 and an oculus rift 2? I think it is called? And it just doesn't look pretty in there. I've really only played 2 VR games, MSFS and ACC. MSFS was much more ambitious graphically, but the screen door effect is more apparent.

ACC seems tough to run, I had to settle for 60 hz to have the graphics look sharp, and while I actually think it looks better than MSFS, these VR headsets seem to have muted colors idk. It's just not pretty and "shiny" like modern games are.

I'm enjoying ACC though, it might inspire me to get a more serious wheel than my g29 or whatever the forcefeedback logitech playstation wheel is. Plus as neat as MSFS was to fly around for a few days, there's not much of a game there tbh.
 
£650 for a RTX 3080 FE doesn't exactly sound very tasty these days, does it?

sub £500 though, not so bad.

Meanwhile, a lot of RTX 3080s going for >£500 used :cry:

The pricing on the RTX 3070 TI was always terrible, such an unnecessary edition to the series.
 
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g67575 said:
£650 for a RTX 3080 FE doesn't exactly sound very tasty these days, does it?

sub £500 though, not so bad.

Meanwhile, a lot of RTX 3080s going for >£500 used :cry:

The pricing on the RTX 3070 TI was always terrible, such an unnecessary edition to the series.
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It sounds absolute trash tbh, £650 for a 10GB card that's getting on for 3 years old. LMAO.

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