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NVIDIA 4000 Series

iron_monkey said:
Grats, which one did you go for? Im still trying to decide. Zotac has the best price and warranty also the best RMA i think? Are any of the 4090's fitted with the new power connector or is it just the FE?
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My Zotac arrives today. I'll check it. What is the easiest way to see the difference?

It does have the 5yr warranty yes.
 
robgmun said:
It's a bit frustrating when Nvidia scores an own goal this gen but instead of capitalizing on it, AMD proceeds to shoot their own goalie
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HUB said in a recent video that all AMD needed to do was release the 7900XTX as an 'XT' at $900 and the 7900XT as a 7800XT @ $750 and they'd have made bank and gotten a heap of consumer goodwill - instead the prices are drifting that way anyway but on the back of a bunch of customers calling AMD out for being incompetent/tone-deaf.

It really feels like the Radeon division has zero interest in gaining market share.

*Edit* and I'm one of AMD's potential customers - got no loyalty to either AMD or Nvidia (heck, I'd have bought an Arc for my second PC if not for the fact it's crippled without resizable BAR). When AMD/Nvidia competed solely on price/performance I was happy to buy either depending on my needs/budget. Nvidia's current software/features are so far ahead of AMD at the moment though that AMD needs to be notably cheaper at comparable performance to make them worth considering (and where the heck is FSR3?).
 
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Dicehunter said:
I forget who tested it, Der8auer maybe ? But if you push the 7900XTX to over 600 watts with a special bios under water it can match a 4090 pulling 300 watts in raster so AMD can do it but they'd never live it down needing to have a 600 watt card just to match the competitions 300 watts result.
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I watched that video and there is performance to be had at huge power consumption.

Intel need 250W to match AMD at 100W with their cpus but no one seems to care. People just accept that type of power usage even if you can get very similar results at far less Wattage. Double standards are applied all across the tech industry and sometimes it a nothing burger and sometimes it is outrageous and the company should be castigated.
 
Haz123 said:
I watched that video and there is performance to be had at huge power consumption.

Intel need 250W to match AMD at 100W with their cpus but no one seems to care. People just accept that type of power usage even if you can get very similar results at far less Wattage. Double standards are applied all across the tech industry and sometimes it a nothing burger and sometimes it is outrageous and the company should be castigated.
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There's quite a difference between CPU and GPU power consumption when it comes specifically to gaming though which is what this would be aimed at, Yes I can push my 13900K to 250 watts if I want to in benchmarks that hammer the CPU but in games I've yet to see it go over 120 watts, Most of the time it hovers around 80 watts.

GPU's on the other hand are a different kettle of fish as with modern games becoming very demanding you want all the performance you can get your hands on but not at the heat/power output cost of a 600 watt card, That would be ludicrous.
 
random_matt said:
Anyone know if the 4080 ventus is any good heat and noise wise?
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I had a 4090 ventus and it was always under 71c in my sff case, fans get pretty loud at anything past 1500rpm however and they can go past 3000rpm for some odd reason lol, given its a 4080 with less power, I would assume that the thermals and noise are even better.
 
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86dan said:
I had a 4090 ventus and it was always under 71c in my sff case, fans get pretty loud at anything past 1500rpm however and they can go past 3000rpm for some odd reason lol, given its a 4080 with less power, I would assume that the thermals and noise are even better.
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I was just exploring what would actually go into a formd t1 case. Unlikely I would buy one to be honest.
 
robgmun said:
It's a bit frustrating when Nvidia scores an own goal this gen but instead of capitalizing on it, AMD proceeds to shoot their own goalie
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Yup. I really have no idea who is in charge at AMD, but they're an idiot. They could easily have taken the consumer disappointment in NVIDIA and turned it in to a greater number of AMD loyal customers. They have never had a better opportunity to increase their market share. They should have taken it, eve if they made a small loss.
 
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SpellowHouse said:
Yup. I really have no idea who is in charge at AMD, but they're an idiot. They could easily have taken the consumer disappointment in NVIDIA and turned it in to a greater number of AMD loyal customers. They have never had a better opportunity to increase their market share. They should have taken it, eve if they made a small loss.
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Yes but you're not privy to all of the facts are you? It's easy for an idiot to call out someone for being an idiot but running a company isn't as easy as pulling a lever and millions of cards suddenly appear. AMD obviously only have so much allocation at TSMC and have to make tough decisions on what allocation goes where, and if gfx cards aren't making as much as say Epyc processors then it's an easy decision to send allocation more so to Epyc etc.

We don't see the full picture, and likely never will. And it's more complicated than we'll ever imagine it to be!!
 
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JediFragger said:
Yes but you're not privy to all of the facts are you? It's easy for an idiot to call out someone for being an idiot but running a company isn't as easy as pulling a lever and millions of cards suddenly appear. AMD obviously only have so much allocation at TSMC and have to make tough decisions on what allocation goes where, and if gfx cards aren't making as much as say Epyc processors then it's an easy decision to send allocation more so to Epyc etc.

We don't see the full picture, and likely never will. And it's more complicated than we'll ever imagine it to be!!
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This is true. You actually reminded me of 4K8K :p But I still think they could do better.
 
JediFragger said:
Yes but you're not privy to all of the facts are you? It's easy for an idiot to call out someone for being an idiot but running a company isn't as easy as pulling a lever and millions of cards suddenly appear. AMD obviously only have so much allocation at TSMC and have to make tough decisions on what allocation goes where, and if gfx cards aren't making as much as say Epyc processors then it's an easy decision to send allocation more so to Epyc etc.

We don't see the full picture, and likely never will. And it's more complicated than we'll ever imagine it to be!!
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If we don't see the full picture, then you can hardly argue against what I am saying.
 
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JediFragger said:
Yes but you're not privy to all of the facts are you? It's easy for an idiot to call out someone for being an idiot but running a company isn't as easy as pulling a lever and millions of cards suddenly appear. AMD obviously only have so much allocation at TSMC and have to make tough decisions on what allocation goes where, and if gfx cards aren't making as much as say Epyc processors then it's an easy decision to send allocation more so to Epyc etc.

We don't see the full picture, and likely never will. And it's more complicated than we'll ever imagine it to be!!
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Is that an argument to shut down every forum or just a defense of every bad decision ever made?
 
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