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NVIDIA 4000 Series
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Soldato
The last time they pulled out the super move was when Turing missed the mark. Seems to be when the pricing is not well received, out they come.
Surprised they didn't just use the 'Ultra' naming convention, that goes right back to the geforce 2, plus sounds better than 'super'.
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I stopped checking over a year ago, nothing to see this generation.
Soldato
I know a fair amount of people up and down the UK, All working people, And none have 1 million quid in assets. Would be interesting to see where this poll/stat was done.
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Great, so when people say something along the lines of AMD are not in the GPU business so people can buy Nvidia cards cheeper are also part of the problem. Glad we sorted that.Tell me you're part of the problem without telling me you're part of the problem.
Maybe, can someone to provide actual data of sales that prove the 4xxx series is not selling well thats not speculation/heresay.
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That's not even close to what you said but yea, if someone said 'AMD's not in the graphics card business to release cards just so some of you can buy AMD and Nvidia cards cheeper.' then they'd also be part of the problem.Great, so when people say something along the lines of AMD are not in the GPU business so people can buy Nvidia cards cheeper are also part of the problem. Glad we sorted that.
I mean anyone who says what's essentially X is not in the business to sell you things cheaply is part of the problem. If someone told you Adam the apple seller is not selling apples just so you can buy cheap apples they're essentially trying to justify Adam, and every seller of apples, overcharging customers. With that sort of attitude where does it stop? Adam is charging £500 per apple; Well Adam is not in the business just so you can buy cheap apples.
Yes they can...
GPU market sees impressive recovery as desktop graphics cards sales rocket up 37% — JPR says 'the post-Covid black death is over'
AMD did especially well.
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Caporegime
That's not even close to what you said but yea, if someone said 'AMD's not in the graphics card business to release cards just so some of you can buy AMD and Nvidia cards cheeper.' then they'd also be part of the problem.
I mean anyone who says what's essentially X is not in the business to sell you things cheaply is part of the problem. If someone told you Adam the apple seller is not selling apples just so you can buy cheap apples they're essentially trying to justify Adam, and every seller of apples, overcharging customers. With that sort of attitude where does it stop? Adam is charging £500 per apple; Well Adam is not in the business just so you can buy cheap apples.
Yes they can...
GPU market sees impressive recovery as desktop graphics cards sales rocket up 37% — JPR says 'the post-Covid black death is over'
AMD did especially well.www.tomshardware.com
What i hate about the way JPR measure these things, they class iGPU's as GPU's, so you buy a CPU, a 13700K... JPR class that as a GPU sale because it has integrated graphics.
They even say AMD have gained 3 percentage points which collerates directly with Intel's 4 percentage point loss in GPU's sale, guess the real reason for that, AMD have added an iGPU to all their mainstream 7000 series CPU's. JPR themselves cite iGPU sales as the reason for it, good grief...
I'd like to think AMD did that just to make a mockery of these idiots who call themselves analysts and come up with charts like this.
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According to Steam survey the 4xxx are selling more compared to the 3xxx series in similar timeframes.Great, so when people say something along the lines of AMD are not in the GPU business so people can buy Nvidia cards cheeper are also part of the problem. Glad we sorted that.
Maybe, can someone to provide actual data of sales that prove the 4xxx series is not selling well thats not speculation/heresay.
PSN also lost 3 million monthly users in the last couple of years while Steam userbase grew a lot even after the pandemic. PC gaming could not be more popular right now hence the overpriced parts everywhere.
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Caporegime
Steam Deck?
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Any reason why the 3070 was a big nope for you? I went from a 1070 to a 3070 and that was a dreamy swap for me, the 2070 seemed too expensive for the FE model (and I was sort of forced into 2 slot cards as I was using a very small SFF ITX case at the time).
Nah that's insignificant. We're talking about tens of millions more users monthly and that's just Steam.
Last time I checked the Deck didn't even manage to move the needle regarding operating system percentages on Steam HW.
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Caporegime
25% faster with the same 8GB Vram, i didn't even care that much about the 125 FPS vs 100 FPS but to not even give me a more future proofed product for that £500, where was the incentive for me to replace my last gen ##70 class card?
At least the 2070 Super was 80% faster than the 1070 i had before it and yet another with 8GB??? i'm already having VRam issues with that on the 2070 Super, it runs out of Vram before it drops below 100 FPS so why would i want another 8GB card?
Yet Nvidia’s gaming revenue was over double what is now, don’t forget most people were mining back then as well, I barely touched steam for a year when I was making over £10 per day mining.
Caporegime
I saw the 8GB would start to become an issue,so I decided to get an RTX3060TI FE over an RTX3070 FE. At £100 cheaper and not massively slower I am happy I saved £100!
Many RTX3000 series sales did not show up on Steam as they were used for mining.
Also the only RTX4000 series card in the top 20 is the laptop RTX4060. Plus if you normalise to price(£500~£800),the RTX3070,RTX3070TI and RTX3080 still have around 8% sales share,whereas the RTX4070/RTX4070TI are barely at 2.5% and the RTX4000 series is half way through its lifespan. So if you also consider there was some pent up demand because many people couldn't get an RTX3000 series card due to mining,etc it looks even worse.
The reality is despite all the marketing spin by PR,they are not selling as well as they think.
If they were Nvidia wouldn't release the Super range next month which will mean price reductions on the older cards. People on forums kept saying the RTX2000 series was a sales success right until the Super series came out,and the RTX2060/RTX2070 was price reduced.
Another factor people are not looking at is AI - Chinese companies are rushing through purchase of gaming cards for use in AI due to the incoming ban. Now the restrictions are coming in,you see Nvidia suddenly releasing a Super range,so it tells me if you take away AI sales are not where they want them to be.
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Caporegime
Wow, holly ______ look at this.
Dawid was asked if he thought AMD would do quite well with a half price 4080, the first thing that entered his tiny mind was "well it would be great if they didn't catch on fire" MLID was like "erm? what" to which he continued to insist that the 7900XT or something was "catching on fire" it took a while for Tom to bring him around to realising he was remembering click bait Youtube thumbnails of the 7900XT with flames bursting out of it..... all that over hyped nonsense where some batches of the reference ones didn't have enough fluid in the vapour chambers and were throttling.
"oh right, didn't actually watch those videos" the thumbnails gave him all the information he needed right?
Those click bait thumbnails are cancerous because in fact most people are about as normie as Dawid.
I should make a Youtube thumbnail of Linus taking bribes from AMD, with mountains of cash and Linus looking really shifty with a swag bag, maybe a police car with flashing lights and a prison in the background...... its just about Linus making yet another AMD sponsored build video.
Do something similar with GN and Hardware Unboxed, i doubt they would like that much.
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Dawid was asked if he thought AMD would do quite well with a half price 4080, the first thing that entered his tiny mind was "well it would be great if they didn't catch on fire" MLID was like "erm? what" to which he continued to insist that the 7900XT or something was "catching on fire" it took a while for Tom to bring him around to realising he was remembering click bait Youtube thumbnails of the 7900XT with flames bursting out of it..... all that over hyped nonsense where some batches of the reference ones didn't have enough fluid in the vapour chambers and were throttling.
"oh right, didn't actually watch those videos" the thumbnails gave him all the information he needed right?
Those click bait thumbnails are cancerous because in fact most people are about as normie as Dawid.
I should make a Youtube thumbnail of Linus taking bribes from AMD, with mountains of cash and Linus looking really shifty with a swag bag, maybe a police car with flashing lights and a prison in the background...... its just about Linus making yet another AMD sponsored build video.
Do something similar with GN and Hardware Unboxed, i doubt they would like that much.
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