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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Tinek said:
Hence I said "for my own needs" - a lot of new games that require fast GPU are just not the games I want to play (various reasons, mostly they just suck IMO). But objectively speaking, GPUs speed isn't growing as fast as games require, same with CPUs lately, it seems. I blame corpos squeezing monies out of games as much as possible, with no wait for any optimisation etc. so we get mostly copy/paste code all over the place and then games work and look like they do (recent example Starfield). UE5 games look fine but that engine is still new and many devs do not know how to optimise in it well, yet. Hence, it's an FPS killer even for 4090.
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I agree which is why if your keeping the card for a while the 4090 makes sense as come next gen it'll be the only current GPU to deliver over 60 fps at 4k in the vast majority of those future titles.
 
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PJHUK said:
I know it's been said before, but the packaging with the FE is superb. Not even installed yet, but already super impressed!!
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Gotta hand it to Nvidia, they knocked it out of the ball park with the FE design, starting with the 3 series.

I have a 3080 TIFE and the build quality is just superb.

It's why my next card will likely be an FE model, assuming they continue the quality with the 5 series.
 
Neil79 said:
Just loaded up Ratchet and Clank and WOW mind blown!

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My 3070 TI was struggling with any form of ray tracing and even dropped below 80fps with the frame gen mod. But this card? 140-160fps, 52C with the game pretty much maxed out!
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People like to crap on the 4080, but is pretty fast, not that power hungry and doesn't get hot (spots). :)

Neil79 said:
4080 Super - 95-110fps - Alan Wake RT (Very High/Max)
3070 ti OC - 50-70 - Alan Wake RT ( low/Medium )

Alan Wake was unplayable with raytracing, needed the FG mod, but even then not fun! - Now it's perfectly playable.

Vsync/Gsync isn't working for some reason in just Battlefield 2042 though, keeps going up to 185fps haha
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Use RivaTuner to set whatever limit you like for each game.

Joxeon said:
I agree which is why if your keeping the card for a while the 4090 makes sense as come next gen it'll be the only current GPU to deliver over 60 fps at 4k in the vast majority of those future titles.
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Press the doubt button! :p
 
Kelt said:
I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone say the 4080 is a crap card, just that it has a crap price.
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Depends what you can get from where you're comfortable/able to buy. For instance, right now, Jet Stream model 4080 from Palit is around 1300 euros at the store I usually buy from. Game Rock 4090 is about 2050 euros. Both are the cheapest models. 4090 is 26% faster for a bit over 57% more money and yet people go on how great of a buy the 4090 is!!! :)) There's a lot of performance to cover even until you get the same performance/$, nevermind having the 4090 be better.

So yeah, is bad since it was price hiked compared to 3080 MSRP, but 4090 doesn't look that much better either if what's in the shops isn't great OR you've bought the 3080 at a premium from scalpers of all type.
 
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What games have you played on it so far? I went back through older games and realised that I kind of wished I didn't play so many on the 3080 Ti because those were still fresh in mind and at least 2 more years off from being forgotten so could replay and re-experience :p
 
Just doing some overclock tests and running heaven benchmark

Stock - FPS 125 / Min 9.2 / Max 263 / 3195 Score
Core(50) Mem (500) - FPS 130.2 / Min 41.2 / Max 261 / 3279 Score
Core(100) Mem (1000) - FPS 133.06 / Min 42.3 / Max 265.6 / 3366 Score
 
Neil79 said:
Just doing some overclock tests and running heaven benchmark

Stock - FPS 125 / Min 9.2 / Max 263 / 3195 Score
Core(50) Mem (500) - FPS 130.2 / Min 41.2 / Max 261 / 3279 Score
Core(100) Mem (1000) - FPS 133.06 / Min 42.3 / Max 265.6 / 3366 Score
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I did multiple testing of my 3080 Ti on the day I got it, and found that undervolting was the way to go.

Not worth the extra power and associated heat for the few fps gains by overclocking.
 
Kelt said:
I did multiple testing of my 3080 Ti on the day I got it, and found that undervolting was the way to go.

Not worth the extra power and associated heat for the few fps gains by overclocking.
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I did undervolting on my 3070 ti, it was unstable and did not perform as well as a set clock. Heat isn't an issue with this card or the 3070 ti.

Going from 125 to 133 is pretty decent and remains at around 50C at 50% fan speed ( in heaven )
 
Neil79 said:
I did undervolting on my 3070 ti, it was unstable and did not perform as well as a set clock. Heat isn't an issue with this card or the 3070 ti.

Going from 125 to 133 is pretty decent and remains at around 50C at 50% fan speed ( in heaven )
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40 series OCing really isn't necessary really. They come out of the box over-provisioned for power anyway as it is. You can comfortably power limit a 4090 to 60-80% and only lose single digit fps in games whilst shaving up to nearly 200 watts of power draw. I'd assume a 4080 class would see similar differences.

Here's an example on the 4090 benching Cyberpunk at 100% power limit, 80, 75 and 65:

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At 65% PL, the power draw is at around 280 watts, sometimes lower sometimes a bit higher:
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At 80% PL the average fps difference is 1fps whilst drawing 100 watts less power :cry:

My 24/7 PL is 75% for this reason as of late. A cooler running GPU, even quieter fans, only ~2fps difference average in actual games.
 
I dont think every game is 1fps, but in general yes you can huge amount of watts for very little performance

Here is some Timespy scaling as well

In general, keeping a 4090 around 80% PL will be the best bang for 95% of scenarios

RTX 4090
Power LimitGPU Score
27517991
30018698
32519246
35019753
37520152
40020599
42520806
45020949
47521023
50021035
52521044
 
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