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NVIDIA 4000 Series

I hope they do increase the VRAM just so we don't get the is X amount of VRAM enough threads again.

That said a £650 for 10gb 4080 which is 60% faster than a 3080 would be quite a punchy card for those who like 1440p high refresh rate gaming.

You either have reduce to bus speed to 256 and go with 16gb or go with a 320 or 384 bus with either 10 / 12 or 20 / 24 and clearly with 20 or 24gb your not going to get the card for under £1000
 
KompuKare said:
Igor seems to have found some info AD102 / GAD102:
https://www.igorslab.de/en/new-deta...b-gddr6x-and-a-clever-voltage-converter-orgy/
Pin compatible with GA102 is a bit of a surprise.

Igor seems to think 600W is actually true with the reference cooler being triple slot. Yikes!

12 memory module slots, so 12GB and 24GB again. A bit low for the 4080 IMO.
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3.5 slot so really 4 slot for AIBs. Going to be comical and that sort of spacing means at these power levels sli/nvlink on air is dead if they even come with nvlink this time because nvidia is trying to make it a luxury on their A-series now after seeing so many 3090's end up in dual setups for workstation use. Anyways I think they are shooting themselves in the foot if they remove nvlink from 4090s or the titans.. Remember the Titan V had no nvlink too and basically killed a huge segment of the market that wanted titan volta in nvlink.

As for cards sold to gamers with these huge coolers and power use. I wish them luck and the price of these with all the extra cooling and extra power phases is not going to be cheap. Have a feeling 40 series are going to go down badly and even worse than the 20 series turing cards. It's now just brute force computing with larger and larger dies with more transistors at even higher power use and ipc improvements have gone out of the window and the new nodes clearly are not enough to save them now on power use too. AMD have now gone down that route too with AM5 rumours being 170w 16 core cpu next gen from 105w 5950x. More heat and power use when we are getting huge price hikes to electricity :rolleyes:.. Wish them luck but looking like a dead generation to me even before releasing them.
 
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Joxeon said:
I hope they do increase the VRAM just so we don't get the is X amount of VRAM enough threads again.

That said a £650 for 10gb 4080 which is 60% faster than a 3080 would be quite a punchy card for those who like 1440p high refresh rate gaming.
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I'm going with typical of 30% improvement and £850-900 fake msrp for 4080 with 12GB. Real Street price £1250-1500 for the AIBs. This all on a 103 chip not even 102. Now we know why 103 chips this gen were created so they can also be pin to pin replacements.
 
Purgatory said:
I'm going with typical of 30% improvement and £850-900 fake msrp for 4080 with 12GB. Real Street price £1250-1500 for the AIBs. This all on a 103 chip not even 102. Now we know why 103 chips this gen were created so they can also be pin to pin replacements.
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This is quite likely.
 
I think the only bit of info most will be interested in is the RRP price, and the price of third party cards... If the RTX 4070 is about as powerful as the RTX 3080, I think it will cost about the same amount for the Founders Edition (partly because AMD is still not producing enough cards). Intel isn't going to be able to compete at this level in 2022 (not too far off though).

The other important bit for many, is power consumption. E.g. Will a RTX 4070 even run on a decent 600w power supply? I'd guess it will push it to it's limits.

If the high power consumption rumours are true, these cards will need monstrous cooling (or a far better cooling design).
 
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Purgatory said:
I'm going with typical of 30% improvement and £850-900 fake msrp for 4080 with 12GB. Real Street price £1250-1500 for the AIBs. This all on a 103 chip not even 102. Now we know why 103 chips this gen were created so they can also be pin to pin replacements.
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If mining is not in fashion then no way will prices stay inflated for long after the initial release.

g67575 said:
I think the only bit of info most will be interested in is the RRP price, and the price of third party cards... If the RTX 4070 is about as powerful as the RTX 3080, I think it will cost about the same amount for the Founders Edition (partly because AMD is still not producing enough cards). Intel isn't going to be able to compete at this level in 2022 (not too far off though).

The other important bit for many, is power consumption. E.g. Will a RTX 4070 even run on a decent 600w power supply? I'd guess it will push it to it's limits.

If the high power consumption rumours are true, these cards will need monstrous cooling (or a far better cooling design).
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If a 4070 is the same speed as a 3080 and on TSMC 5nm then I'd expect it to only draw around 170w if it doesn't use GDDR6X and around 240w if it does.
 
Joxeon said:
If a 4070 is the same speed as a 3080 and on TSMC 5nm then I'd expect it to only draw around 170w if it doesn't use GDDR6X and around 240w if it does.
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An extra 70W for GDDR6X only? That seems a bit high!

Kirby Wurm said:
They're going to need some very smart engineering or that will be the only option alongside CLC!
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Any GPU anti-sag manufacturers looking for some investors?

Hey, if there is enough of a shortage maybe we should all start making some and selling them on the 'bay. Anything from a dowel and some wood (think violin maker's clamp) to metal or acrylic ones might suddenly become sell-able.
 
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