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NVIDIA 4000 Series

subbytna said:
No prices up yet for OCUK, they must be embarrassed to post the prices lol :D
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As a rough guideline:

4090 basic SKU = £1679 - £1749
4090 OC SKU = £1749 - £1859
4090 OC MAX SKU / H20 = £1899 - £1999

Is roughly to expect them where to sit, a Strix card for sure is the last category on that list. :)
 
Murphy said:
Nope, as much as Nvidia marketing want you to believe that it's not. I assume when you say "Super Resolution" you're referring either to Super Sampling or Dynamic Super Resolution, let's go with the former as that's what the SS part stands for and the later isn't even part of DLSS.

No one is disputing what features make up DLSS 3, in fact you said "Apparently DLSS 3 will work on RTX gpus, just not all of the features which make up DLSS now i.e. frame generation:" and i said "So essentially everything that makes DLSS 3, DLSS 3." to whit you relied saying "Whilst true with the omission of frame generation, we are getting 2/3 new additions from v3 so to say we aren't getting dlss 3 at all isn't quite 100% correct" (My emphasis) so as you can see you were the one who initially claim DLSS 3 is comprised of three new features.

What's being disputed is that original claim of yours, that DLSS 3 consists of three new features, but i suspect you know that already as you brought it up often enough up until this post where you've seemingly tried to pivot away from that new claim, i assume because you now realise DLSS 3 is essentially one new feature but you find it difficult to admit to that.

No, like i said you've been taken in by Nvidia marketing, there's nothing wrong with that as marketing is sometimes intentionally misleading (much like how the 4080 12GB is seemingly an attempt to mislead customers). There's only one 'new' feature that goes into making DLSS 3, frame generation. Frame generation may well require reflex and 'super resolution' but they are not 'new' features.
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As I said elsewhere, I'm uncertain with what exactly nvidia are referring to when they say "super resolution performance", it's not very clear if this is just the roots/foundations of DLSS or if it is a new preset. However, based on what I have seen, it looks like they have done bit of a "rebrand" of the traditional dlss upscaling tech. that we all know i.e. think of it as dlss 2 is now known as "dlss super resolution". I won't comment on that "feature" of dlss 3 any further until there is more clarification what is what with it though, especially since we have no indication as to if there have been further improvements in dlss itself.

Frame generation, we have agreed on, it's a completely new feature for nvidia AND for dlss, which forms dlss 3.

Simple yes or no, is reflex "new" to dlss? We know it's not a new "feature" for nvidia.

Bear in mind, the comment of yours I have been referring to here:

Not new, they've been a part of DLSS 2 since day 1.
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Gibbo said:
As a rough guideline:

4090 basic SKU = £1679 - £1749
4090 OC SKU = £1749 - £1859
4090 OC MAX SKU / H20 = £1899 - £1999

Is roughly to expect them where to sit, a Strix card for sure is the last category on that list. :)
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Will there be a clown edition for £1599?
 
Here is DLSS 3.0 in fast motion:

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(not my findings, some else found this)

It's been rumored that DLSS 3.0 has issue objects/mpc/cars that make sudden movements. It appears that DLSS 3.0 has issues.
This looks like disocculusion issues.
 
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Gibbo said:
As a rough guideline:

4090 basic SKU = £1679 - £1749
4090 OC SKU = £1749 - £1859
4090 OC MAX SKU / H20 = £1899 - £1999

Is roughly to expect them where to sit, a Strix card for sure is the last category on that list. :)
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I will get one if there's a 50% discount :D
 
TNA said:
Will there be a clown edition for £1599?
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They will be £1679, below is impossible even on the most basic, if £££ gains strength then yes prices will eventually drop, if it weakens they get worse, so basic clown editions, £1679 is as cheap as they get. The MSRP's were set with a rate of 1.14 (GBP to USD), today it is 1.13. :(
 
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At least if theres no orders before release date, it gives everyone the opportunity to see what independent reviews have to say about the cards, where it REALLY lines up compared to 3000 series, as well as seeing what AMD have to offer the week before.
Probably wont get AMD reviews by then unfortunately, but its better than not knowing what AMD have and committing to nvidia. Still, feels like there wont be anything like the stampede of previous generations, as 3000 series owners wont see much value in an upgrade, and its a steep price for folks like myself coming from earlier generations (a 2nd hand 1080 at that), so i'll be waiting to see how things play out first.

I'd had in my head a budget of around £2k for an AM5 system (X3D) & 4080 in the next 6mo, now that number seems to be creeping up month by month.
Im leaning more towards a 4090 FE and an aftermarket block (rather than going AIB for similar money), but deep down im now hoping AMD will come along and can us offer what we all probably hoped the 4080 would be. Fingers crossed.
 
turbot1984 said:
Any ideas on the 3080 16GB?
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You mean 4080 16GB, NVIDIA has posted all the MSRP's up and it starts from £1269, so again AIB high-end OC models will cost more:
www.nvidia.com

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER and RTX 4080 Graphics Cards

For gamers and creators.
www.nvidia.com

4080 12G from £949 and again AIB high-end OC models will cost more.

MSRP is for entry level SKU / FE card.

Also remember the 4080 12G and 4080 16G are very different cards, the 16G version is not just 4GB extra memory, it is 256-bit VS 192-bit and also 9728 VS 7680 Cuda Cores, so the 16GB is a far more powerful card.
 
humbug said:
So in Jensons mind 4GB of GDDR6 is worth $300.

$900 to $1200 for the 4080, this is insane.

4070 no less than $700
4060 no less than $500
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Nope they are totally different cards, 4GB, bigger memory interface, more cores/processing power etc.
 
Gibbo said:
You mean 4080 16GB, NVIDIA has posted all the MSRP's up and it starts from £1269, so again AIB high-end OC models will cost more:
www.nvidia.com

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER and RTX 4080 Graphics Cards

For gamers and creators.
www.nvidia.com

4080 12G from £949 and again AIB high-end OC models will cost more.

MSRP is for entry level SKU / FE card.

Also remember the 4080 12G and 4080 16G are very different cards, the 16G version is not just 4GB extra memory, it is 256-bit VS 192-bit and also 9728 VS 7680 Cuda Cores, so the 16GB is a far more powerful card.
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I’ve had a brilliant idea to stop customers getting confused. How about listing the 4080 12gb under a section called 4070 ? :D
 
Gibbo said:
You mean 4080 16GB, NVIDIA has posted all the MSRP's up and it starts from £1269, so again AIB high-end OC models will cost more:
www.nvidia.com

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER and RTX 4080 Graphics Cards

For gamers and creators.
www.nvidia.com

4080 12G from £949 and again AIB high-end OC models will cost more.

MSRP is for entry level SKU / FE card.

Also remember the 4080 12G and 4080 16G are very different cards, the 16G version is not just 4GB extra memory, it is 256-bit VS 192-bit and also 9728 VS 7680 Cuda Cores, so the 16GB is a far more powerful card.
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ok, ta, didn't realise that.
 
labbby said:
I’ve had a brilliant idea to stop customers getting confused. How about listing the 4080 12gb under a section called 4070 ? :D
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NVIDIA would not be happy, I've made sure 4080 16G and 4080 12G are separate listings as they are different cards.
 
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