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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Also sorry to @ you @Gibbo but are the pre builds going up then or would it be best to try and call at 2pm? I don’t want to miss out like I did last time.
 
If the 4090cards all have the same plugs.
Wonder how the aib will get more power for overclocking...
Or are they all the same?

I think there is another 4090 coming soon.

The FE has only three 8 pin connectors. looks like AIBs (most) have gone with 4 connectors so thats 4 x 150W plus 75W from the slot so 675W.
 
With thing like the Strix - do they eventually do water cooling blocks for them or is what they come with sufficient?
Found this on the EK press release.

EK-Quantum Vector² FE RTX 4090 water blocks, backplates, and active backplates are compatible with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition GPU. The EK Cooling Configurator will be updated regularly with AIB partner PCBs and models as new info comes in. EK plans to provide all popular AIB models with their own water blocks to ensure customers have a wide range of choices depending on their preferred brand or requirements in the graphics card size.

So it looks like AIB cards like the strix will be supported eventually but founders edition will be supported first (at least from EK).
 
With thing like the Strix - do they eventually do water cooling blocks for them or is what they come with sufficient?

Usually they come but damn it can be a long long wait..........Cant remember how many months after launch before I could buy a waterblock for my 3090 strix.
 
Here you go:

i.e. again you are saying the "only" thing they have added to dlss to make it v3 is frame generation when clearly that is not the case, reflex has also been added to be apart of dlss as opposed to being a standalone feature.
That's because it is, you seem to be going over old ground. How many times do you need to be told that Reflex is not 'new' and 'super resolution' is not 'new'.
And here is nvidias article again:

Yea, that really doesn't help your argument as much as you think it does, in fact it just shows how you've fallen for Nvidia marketing hook-line-and-sinker. Next you'll be trying to convince people the 4080 12GB is not a 4070 in disguise.
Whilst their "super resolution" feature is very cryptic (and is looking like a "rebrand" of DLSS 2/foundations as I mentioned earlier on), the reflex is not, it is clear that it has never been apart of dlss until v3:
At least we've established that you don't pay attention to what the person you're having a discussion with has said, i guess we shouldn't expect anything better from someone who seems to argue for the sake of arguing but still...
When Nvidia launched its 30-Series graphics cards, it was keen to champion a brand new feature: Nvidia Reflex.
So as you've already been told Reflex was introduced when the 30 series was released, when Nvidia brought out DLSS 2.
So I suppose if you really wanted, you could say there are 2 "new" features added to dlss to form dlss 3:

- reflex, which all rtx owners benefit from
- frame generation, which only 40xx benefit from

And DLSS 3 is made up of 3 features in total now:

- reflex (applies to all rtx owners)
- frame generation (applies only to 40xx owners)
- super resolution aka DLSS 2 (applies to all rtx owners)
No you really couldn't say that, as i keep telling you there's one, frame generation. While the other features maybe a requirement or needed to make frame generation work or work better they are not new features.
 


Here is one way to see those DLSS 3.0 pics yourself while watching the video. You can skip ahead to 1:32 mark of the video. Then slow down the playback speed to 0.25. There you should see the disocculusions, etc.
Strange Alex didn't mention it when he did against FSR in GOW. But it's apparant that DLSS 3.0 doesn't show the same image quality as native.
 
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That's because it is, you seem to be going over old ground. How many times do you need to be told that Reflex is not 'new' and 'super resolution' is not 'new'.

Yea, that really doesn't help your argument as much as you think it does, in fact it just shows how you've fallen for Nvidia marketing hook-line-and-sinker. Next you'll be trying to convince people the 4080 12GB is not a 4070 in disguise.

At least we've established that you don't pay attention to what the person you're having a discussion with has said, i guess we shouldn't expect anything better from someone who seems to argue for the sake of arguing but still...

So as you've already been told Reflex was introduced when the 30 series was released, when Nvidia brought out DLSS 2.

No you really couldn't say that, as i keep telling you there's one, frame generation. While the other features maybe a requirement or needed to make frame generation work or work better they are not new features.

So seems you are avoiding the comment you made here then:

Not really, the only thing (afaik) that differentiates DLSS 3 from 2 is the addition of the frame generation feature. Remove that and you have DLSS 2 or to put it another way the only new feature added to DLSS 3 is the thing previous generation cards can't use, the frame generation feature, so if they can't use that new feature they're not using the only feature that makes DLSS 3, DLSS 3.

Not new, they've been a part of DLSS 2 since day 1.

Why do you keep avoiding this from nvidias article:

Building upon DLSS Super Resolution, DLSS 3 adds Optical Multi Frame Generation to generate entirely new frames, and integrates NVIDIA Reflex low latency technology for optimal responsiveness. DLSS 3 is powered by the new fourth-generation Tensor Cores and Optical Flow Accelerator of the NVIDIA Ada Lovelace architecture, which powers GeForce RTX 40 Series graphics cards.

Still you are insisting that reflex was apart of dlss 2? Even though it never has been apart of dlss.... lets assume reflex was apart of dlss 2...... why do games have reflex as a separate option to dlss in games? (and reflex option isn't in every game with dlss 2 either....)

I have already said that super resolution after reading more into it, looks just like a rebrand of dlss 2 and that is in the very post you quoted....
 
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