If DLSS 3 draws one frame and then anticipates the next 3 frames, then you are going to be shooting at nothing. The problem will be even more noticeable playing against people with different connection speeds. It seems to me DLSS 3 will be ok for single player games but not fast paced FPS shooters
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NVIDIA 4000 Series
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To be fair people disabled DLSS at the MW2 Beta lan effect they had last week.
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Hah no, its a proof-of-concept machine (potentially a one off), probably ~£2k in parts all-in, no idea on the actual build and design costs, as it wasn't my project. I just did the build as the guy who was supposed to complete is off sick right now, and as I do lots of 1U/2U/4U builds they asked me if I'd mind, since I had a few hours to spare while I was on-site.
I actually think the motherboard that was being used was probably £800+ and it used the W680 chipset, had four Ethernet ports two were 10GbE, so not something you'd put in a typical gaming system, but it isn't in the BoM as the proper board, so I just assumed a ~£200 for the cost comparison.
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Bit more info here on the Corsair cable in this post.
forum.corsair.com
Ready to Go Beyond Fast
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 40-Series graphics cards are coming and CORSAIR power supplies are ready.
Perfect as i have a HXi1200 so will get one of these but hopefully cable mod do a nice sleeved one ( i am sure they will as £££ to be earntBit more info here on the Corsair cable in this post.
Ready to Go Beyond Fast
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 40-Series graphics cards are coming and CORSAIR power supplies are ready.
) . will match the rest of my cables then and be all compliant They did one for the 3090 too, I grabbed one as it really cleans up the look in the case.
Do you know when available to buy? Not seeing listed anywhere in UK
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It's basically a conversation a bit late to the party, as everything discussed has been covered countless times both here there and every other youtuber now 
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Good to know my PSU wouldn't need changing, it has been good so far, fan doesn't even start til a decent load is on.
Still probably wait to see AMD offerings though. Most likely reveal before Nvidia launch I'd have thought?
Still probably wait to see AMD offerings though. Most likely reveal before Nvidia launch I'd have thought?
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the reviewers are just stuck in the past.. we got look at RASTA, i think nvidia should be partnering with professional quality assurance service providers like tuv or dnv and just start ghosting these youtube content creators
dlss is how are you going to get the 2-slot graphic cards back in business
From what I understand based on manuel comment on reddit.
DLSS 3 will include enhancements to existing DLSS, these enhancements will work on 'all' RTX cards. It is the specific frame insertion feature (that many are sceptical about anyway) that will be exclusive to 4000 series.
4080 and 4090 include a much nicer encoder which is now dual core and natively supports AV1, so seems Nvidia recognised their huge filesize problem with the added AV1 support. Media I think arent talking about this anywhere, only know its updated due to the Nvidia slides. They always just seem obsessed with rasterization performance.
4080 16 gigs version has a nice profit margin on the VRAM, extra $300 for an extra 4 gigs VRAM although they also giving it 4090 cooler spec and some small amount of extra cores.
Personally I consider the 12 gigs version too low longevity on the VRAM, but those who dont care for decent quality textures, shadows etc. and only want their FPS high on shooters, will appreciate the weaker 4080 variant.
I had decided to skip the 4000 series but the new encoder stuff has some interest from me, so I will await to see how the release goes, if I do dip in, it will be another FE of course the 16gigs variant. If the 4070 has a 16 gig version and the better encoder chip, I will consider that as I am happy with current level of rasterization performance, but I expect it will be limited to 12 gigs.
I see Nvidia have gone in on the treat Americans better crowd on pricing.
DLSS 3 will include enhancements to existing DLSS, these enhancements will work on 'all' RTX cards. It is the specific frame insertion feature (that many are sceptical about anyway) that will be exclusive to 4000 series.
4080 and 4090 include a much nicer encoder which is now dual core and natively supports AV1, so seems Nvidia recognised their huge filesize problem with the added AV1 support. Media I think arent talking about this anywhere, only know its updated due to the Nvidia slides. They always just seem obsessed with rasterization performance.
4080 16 gigs version has a nice profit margin on the VRAM, extra $300 for an extra 4 gigs VRAM although they also giving it 4090 cooler spec and some small amount of extra cores.
Personally I consider the 12 gigs version too low longevity on the VRAM, but those who dont care for decent quality textures, shadows etc. and only want their FPS high on shooters, will appreciate the weaker 4080 variant.
I had decided to skip the 4000 series but the new encoder stuff has some interest from me, so I will await to see how the release goes, if I do dip in, it will be another FE of course the 16gigs variant. If the 4070 has a 16 gig version and the better encoder chip, I will consider that as I am happy with current level of rasterization performance, but I expect it will be limited to 12 gigs.
I see Nvidia have gone in on the treat Americans better crowd on pricing.
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Any benches? 3090 vs 4090
No prices yet?
is it still 4090 on launch and wait for the 4080 16gb?
lastly after market cards on release day? 12th October, i wonder how the availability will be like, that 30 series lunch was nasty, people had to wait over a year.
No prices yet?
is it still 4090 on launch and wait for the 4080 16gb?
lastly after market cards on release day? 12th October, i wonder how the availability will be like, that 30 series lunch was nasty, people had to wait over a year.
Prices start from just under £1700 and if you want something fancy like ASUS Strix then you are looking around 2K
Well worth it though. Best hurry as loads here will be buying so stocks won’t last!
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They will appreciate being ripped off by a gimped version of the card
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Yeah there's a *lot* more to it than that - https://www.club386.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-12gb-loses-out-on-more-than-just-memory/
tl;dr - 22% fewer SMs, meaning 22% fewer CUDA cores, tensor cores, RT cores etc, impacting throughput by about a quarter (we obviously won't know how much it affects gaming until it's tested by third parties.)
The 12GB is a different chip (AD104 vs AD103), with a narrower memory bus (192 vs 256). Basically, it's the xx70 card given an xx80 name. Also there's no FE for this one.
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