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NVIDIA 4000 Series

gpuerrilla said:
Planned obsolescence @Purgatory

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You ready to do your dance for @~>Dg<~

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Did you see the pricing of 30 series and 60 series going up again :cry: ? Didn't he say there would be more discounts soon ?
 
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Twinz said:
What's new is the amount of current being pulled through such small pins.
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Shouldn't be an issue as each crimped terminal inside the 12VHPWR is rated at 9.2 amp and 6 of the pins are the +12volt so you have 9.2 amps x 6 for 55.2amps then x 12 volts for 662.4 watts.

I wouldn't be worried about it anymore than I would bending an 8pin PCIe too much and causing it to short out or overheat.

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Just to add, the key thing on this slide from the GN video is "Cables with low cycles and without bend condition have not failed" so, I'll be attempting to keep bend conditions to a minimum and mating cycles as low as possible to be safe ;)
Benders that have a lot of unsafe mating cycles are going to run into issues!

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Murphy said:
You'd think but from what i was reading last night it seems it maybe the other way around, or at least Nvidia may have much smaller margins on the smaller die's.
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I dont think that not when Sony can make a profit on the disc PS5 at £450 which has a larger die than the AD104 16gb vram, larger heatsync and case with a built in psu, controller and 800gb gen 4 nvme thrown in, ok its TSMC 7 vs 5nm but then Sony has to buy from a middleman AMD and im sure AMD wont be selling at a loss.
 
Neutral said:
It wouldn't have been finalised until quite recently but they definitely designed it 2-3 years ago

I honestly think 4080 priced are subsidising 4090s, and that gamers as a whole are subsidising R&D for enterprise and professional.
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It use to work the other way round but Nvidia has decided time they all start paying up.

I said this in the past that that top cards normally subsidised the lower end cards, but he's now moved lower down the stack.

People were saying high end owners were the cause of such pricing not realising they were the ones keeping the stack lower down a more sensible price for the masses.

I said this on one of the posts :-

Rule 1... what people decide to buy is their business not yours and it's their money not yours.. (also remember people buying at the top end (enterprise too) are subsidising the cards down the stack and always has been this way with worse binned chips at a more realistic price for the masses, don't shoot the people at the top end as they help to make the cards at your range better priced, fact before anyone argues about this.)
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On this thread :-

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti, the flagship reinvented

Well the scalpers have nothing really to lose as they can just return the card for a refund within a timeframe. Madness as I'm limited to lower consumption cards as I only have a 500w psu but it makes me feel uneasy knowing there's cards out there using 450w+ and soon be 600w ones. :eek:
forums.overclockers.co.uk forums.overclockers.co.uk

Of course they argued about it if you read and said the statement had no substance. Well 40 series now added some substance to it. Because 4090 really didn't go up from the 3090 in real terms due to the world mess and actually came down in price, so they had to target price increases lower down to real rates they lost from 90 class, titan users.
 
Guys i'm say again. :)

The RTX 4090 is 67% faster than the 3090Ti in Cyberpunk 2077.

It has 68% more shaders than the 4080 16GB and two thirds the memory bandwidth.
The 4080 12GB has less than half the shaders of the 4090 and half the memory bandwidth.
The all run at about the same clock speed.

The 4080 12GB is half the GPU of the 4090, it is not a 3090 equivalent, it is not a 3080Ti equivalent.

It has 2 more GB than the 3080 vanilla. For £950.
 
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^JP^ said:
Shouldn't be an issue as each crimped terminal inside the 12VHPWR is rated at 9.2 amp and 6 of the pins are the +12volt so you have 9.2 amps x 6 for 55.2amps then x 12 volts for 662.4 watts.

I wouldn't be worried about it anymore than I would bending an 8pin PCIe too much and causing it to short out or overheat.

Edit:

Just to add, the key thing on this slide from the GN video is "Cables with low cycles and without bend condition have not failed" so, I'll be attempting to keep bend conditions to a minimum and mating cycles as low as possible to be safe ;)
Benders that have a lot of unsafe mating cycles are going to run into issues!

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That doesn't leave much wiggle room for pins when they start to, well, wiggle.
 
Joxeon said:
I dont think that not when Sony can make a profit on the disc PS5 at £450 which has a larger die than the AD104 16gb vram, larger heatsync and case with a built in psu, controller and 800gb gen 4 nvme thrown in, ok its TSMC 7 vs 5nm but then Sony has to buy from a middleman AMD and im sure AMD wont be selling at a loss.
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The PS5 uses a customer Zen 2 CPU and RDNA 2 so it's 7nm, not 4/5nm.
 
Oh nice. So Nvidia are releasing a false product stack that will almost certainly totally change when AMD launch? nice.

So you buy a 4080 12gb now, and then when AMD have shown their hand it immediately gets replaced by a better card under the Ti guise.

Jesus. I mean, at least when the 3090 launched there was no imminent 3090Ti.
 
Concrete said:
Honestly Xbox and a few extra controllers is the way to go for me, already pay for gamepass and will still have the PC to run any exclusive titles albeit not optimally, sad :(
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Well put my money where my mouth is, just picked up a series x and 3 extra controllers for under 700 euros, not cheap but should get value for money, still use my 360 periodically :D
 
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