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NVIDIA 4000 Series

well what a shambles this is. idiotic prices, dubious naming of 4080's one of them obviously being a 4070.

sigh, guess il wait for amd's stuff to launch now and see where things settle come end of year. guess my trusty 1070 will have to soldier on for a while longer.
 
Jimmy Weirdarms said:
Maybe they didn't think that particular gravy train was coming to an end so soon?
These would have been designed and ordered while it was still very much a boom time, and the ethereum lot have been announcing they would move to proof-of-stake *any day now* since about 2017, so perhaps nobody expected a) the price crash and b) them to actually follow through this time!
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As above posts, miners select the best hash for the price. These tend to be cards that are not flagships with high premium such as last gen it was the 3070 and the 3060Ti's. For basic performance even what is going to become available in the 4080 12GB its not going to be faster at mining than the 3090's which are selling for these prices already and have been for a while.

Older architectures can also be better such as when new cards came out the 5700XT was better than RDNA2. It makes no sense what is being speculated.
 
chrcoluk said:
OCUK marketing team not up to the game there? They missed the new encoder.

An idea that I would love is for GPU encoder chips been sold separately, I expect on their own they dont cost much, Nvidia I expect treat it like as an addon they throw in.
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Several new features missing from his quote thats easy to find from Nvidia website

* New SM core design, featuring Shader Execution Re-ordering and 2x perf/watt improvement
* New RT Gen 3 core and Gen 4 Tensor Core
* New NVENC dual encoder with AV1 support and 8k 60fps HDR recording
* DLSS 3 with Optical Flow Accelerator and Reflex
 
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gpuerrilla said:
As above posts, miners select the best hash for the price. These tend to be cards that are not flagships with high premium such as last gen it was the 3070 and the 3060Ti's. For basic performance even what is going to become available in the 4080 12GB its not going to be faster at mining than the 3090's which are selling for these prices already and have been for a while.

Older architectures can also be better such as when new cards came out the 5700XT was better than RDNA2. It makes no sense what is being speculated.
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During the boom, miners were using whatever they could get, because all cards were profitable. Hash rate per card cost was pretty much irrelevant. High-end, low end, two generations old, didn't really matter. Buy 'em all. There were also lots of hobby miners who were using mining as a way to subsidise their GPU purchases, and no reason to think these folks stuck to the low end or mid market.

I'm not sure why you think it makes no sense to say that this market has evaporated in the time between when these cards were planned and ordered, and now, when we've had both a general cryptocurrency price crash and ethereum is gone. Yes, there are other factors, another one is the pandemic and lockdown-related boom, which did lead to some more gamers spending more money. That's also gone.
 
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GAC said:
well what a shambles this is. idiotic prices, dubious naming of 4080's one of them obviously being a 4070.

sigh, guess il wait for amd's stuff to launch now and see where things settle come end of year. guess my trusty 1070 will have to soldier on for a while longer.
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If you look at both the 80 class specs neither are really good enough, the 16gb is closer in spec to what a 3070ti delivered in relation to a 3090 while the 12gb would have been somewhere between a 3060 and 3060ti. I dread to think what we'll get when the actual 70 class cards arrive but with the specs being further cut down I fail to see how it'll even beat a 3080 while likely costing more.
 
Jae-So said:
Thinking 4080 will be around £849.
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I underegged it even for the 12GB :D

labbby said:
I’m going with

4090ti - 2k
4090 - 1.6k
4080ti - 1.2k
4080 - £999

I think we are in for a shock with the pricez
But I hope I’m wrong.

I have had a few beers and I’m a bitter old man so :D
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Credit, you were spot on - this is crazy.
4080ti translating to the price of the 16GB 4080.
 
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muzzydark said:
When Sony and Microsoft did fake 4k (I know it's not much relevant with dlss but hey!) on ps4 and xbox one we all booed. Nvidia now doing everything fake! Fake MSRP (30 series), fake resolution (dlss 2), inserting fake frames (dlss 3) and even fake names (4080 12GB) and they're getting away with all those while mockingly marketing them as "performance features"... I genuinely laughed when I saw 20 FPS of raw performance on "RTX" branded overpriced "nextgen" flagship :cry:

AIBs: Not much profits after crypto crash, we're pulling off this round
Nvidia: Hang on! Here's your 4080 12GB, get your profits on baby die of 4060 class we'll strike 60 to 80 and even up the price for ya
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Thank god Jensen didn't get his grubby little hands on ARM.
 
uscool said:
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This is what I've been saying for a while now, people keep saying the 12gb is a 70 and maybe this what what nvidia hoped by making it look so obviously poor but when you dig a little deeper it's really it's the 16gb which is the 70 with a markup of nearly 800 quid, while the 60ti is marked up 600 quid to nearly a grand.
 
Planned obsolescence @Purgatory

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