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NVIDIA 4000 Series
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I am sure there will be a few but most gamers can't afford that, let's be honest, especially these days. Assume the position guys ... !
Soldato
My VR driving sims could use some more GPU power, but I'm already getting a good experience with my current hardware during day-time races.
It's only night races that make my hardware struggle and I don't think I want to spend almost $2k to fix that problem.
The 4090 may be just enough to do the job, but for that kind of money, I don't think "just enough" is going to cut it.
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Anyone wondering what the 4080's so far cost too...
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- KFA2 RTX 4080 16gb: £1,299.95
- PNY RTX 4080 16gb: £1,289
- KFA2 RTX 4080 12gb: £999
- PNY RTX 4080 12gb: £989
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Gives you a clearer picture of how sucky the 4000 series is in value
Chinese also don't like paying upfront for games, they prefer play before you pay model - that's why full price AAA games don't work well there but what works is "free" games with pay to win mechanics - they don't mind spending tons of money once they are playing and enjoy the game, they just don't want to pay before they play
That doesn't mean that Chinese don't play western AAA games, they just don't like paying for them - so there is tons and tons of game pirating
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They could just play the demo, oh wait no one makes them anymore
Well actually, it does matter how wealthy you are as to whether you can afford nice things without breaking a sweat. There are tons of people (even on this forum) who spend silly money on expensive and fuel-guzzling cars, or who regularly go out on weekends and blow wads on alcohol in pubs and clubs, and that is FAR more fiscally 'stupid' than buying an expensive GPU's that you get good and worthwhile use from every day you game on it over its generational lifecycle (or beyond).
£2000 over 2 years, with an approximate 50% resale value at the end of those two years making the overall cost around £1000, is not a terrible investment if you love gaming and want the best experience you can get.
But yeah, it's still expensive for a GPU and Nvidia suck for raising things to this pricepoint. I will wait to see what AMD bring to the table before making any decisions.
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You can just 0% finance a GPU+PSU upgrade like many do, it's not hard and it's an easy route to bump up your credit score as well.
But the main point is there aren't enough games that NEED a 40 series to get the best out of for that kind of money, something that for all intents and purposes ---if we sideline DLSS3 for a week or so until the reviews are out that deep dive all over it-- a 3080/90 series will fly through anyway and which most will already have anyway who are serious about higher end scale of gaming in the handful of games that command that sort of power currently.
If there were a shopping list of games that absolutely benefited from the new power then sure I could see the point (assuming all of nvidia's claims turn out to be true, which at present doesn't seem that way but we will have to wait on reviews). A handful of upcoming games is not reason enough to be buying £2k graphics cards when not even a year later the [prices will be dropped almost certainly in a big way to make room for the Ti cards, and if the rumours are true that AMD can introduce their new cards at an undercut price too.
If that is the case then nobody is going to be parting ways in 2 years time at 50% resale value lmao.
Buy smart.
But the main point is there aren't enough games that NEED a 40 series to get the best out of for that kind of money, something that for all intents and purposes ---if we sideline DLSS3 for a week or so until the reviews are out that deep dive all over it-- a 3080/90 series will fly through anyway and which most will already have anyway who are serious about higher end scale of gaming in the handful of games that command that sort of power currently.
If there were a shopping list of games that absolutely benefited from the new power then sure I could see the point (assuming all of nvidia's claims turn out to be true, which at present doesn't seem that way but we will have to wait on reviews). A handful of upcoming games is not reason enough to be buying £2k graphics cards when not even a year later the [prices will be dropped almost certainly in a big way to make room for the Ti cards, and if the rumours are true that AMD can introduce their new cards at an undercut price too.
If that is the case then nobody is going to be parting ways in 2 years time at 50% resale value lmao.
Buy smart.
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At 4k 144hz there's plenty of games you don't see anywhere near 144 fps on a 3080ti, more like half that. The 4090 would seemingly make 144fps a reality in nearly all games as more people move to 4k, and nvidia know that so are charging the earth
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The August Steam survey shows that only 2.5% of users are on a 4K resolution. The biggest being 1080p at 65% and 10% share for 1440p. It's not like those results are basically low end systems either because the biggest physical CPU count is 6 core processors. So in general terms, gamers are playing smart.
People mentioned it before, these seem to be priced as they are for a reason, and that is likely to be to get those masses of 30 series stock shifted on.
People mentioned it before, these seem to be priced as they are for a reason, and that is likely to be to get those masses of 30 series stock shifted on.
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VR gamers can make good use of a 4090 in quite a few games. We game at very high resolutions, often higher than 4k as 2 separate images are rendered and try to run games at fps rates that match our vr headsets refresh rates, typically 90hz.
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Well, I used to upgrade to the latest graphics card every generation, but no more. Prices have just reached insane levels. I'm not paying near enough £1000 for what is surely a 4070.
No need to use relative values to previous generation, just add the actual numbers, which we now have (besides AD106/7).
4000 series data from Nvidia, rest from TPU, 4070/60 assumed by me (so room for error). Prices for 3000 series from ebay (US), 4070/60 again just a guess.
4000 series data from Nvidia, rest from TPU, 4070/60 assumed by me (so room for error). Prices for 3000 series from ebay (US), 4070/60 again just a guess.
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