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NVIDIA 4000 Series

srekal34 said:
That's not entirely true. While FE cooler might not be the best, pcb and power delivery is only matched by the very top level AIB. Comparable 3090 FE will be more power efficent on same V and MHz than Strix for example. Which, if you are using watercooling can lead to comparable gains on same TDP

4090FE with it's 600W power limit is exceptionally well priced compared to AIB, where only OC specs will have 600W PL. So if you are considering watercooling, FE is the one to get.
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If you're attaching a waterblock to it sure, but for most consumers who are just gonna Plug n Play it's not a great buy IMO.

It's gains in x, y or z category are overshadowed by the fact they always sound like a hairdryer, the coolers are cool but I don't think they can touch even the most basic of three fan designs.
 
srekal34 said:
4090FE with it's 600W power limit is exceptionally well priced compared to AIB, where only OC specs will have 600W PL. So if you are considering watercooling, FE is the one to get.
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I have not seen this. Everything I have seen has the 4090 FE with a 450w limit.

Also, while I am impressed by the FE coolers because they do well for how compact they are, I doubt the 4090 FE cooler can control 600W of heat.
 
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Halliphax said:
If you're attaching a waterblock to it sure, but for most consumers who are just gonna Plug n Play it's not a great buy IMO.

It's gains in x, y or z category are overshadowed by the fact they always sound like a hairdryer, the coolers are cool but I don't think they can touch even the most basic of three fan designs.
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My experience differs. I have a 3090FE in my current rig, and it's quiet as a mouse. I don't sit right next to it, though, as it's built into my home theatre. But yeah, not like a hairdryer. My PS5 is much, much louder.
 
I watercool and really like the 3xxx series FE pcb, so small and the blocks are nice. Downside being the lack of bios flashing. In past generations i've had really good results with FE cards due to flashing other model bios with a higher TDP.
 
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Twinz said:
I have not seen this. Everything I have seen has the 4090 FE with a 450w limit.

Also, while I am impressed by the FE coolers because they do well for how compact they are, I doubt the 4090 FE cooler can control 600W of heat.
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Its on Nvidia slides that you can change power limit to 600w on FE.
 
Twinz said:
link?
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www.techpowerup.com

NVIDIA Details GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition Cooler & PCB Design, new Power Spike Management

NVIDIA detailed the design of its GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition graphics card in a briefing with us today. While the new Founders Edition looks very similar to the RTX 3090 Ti Founders Edition, NVIDIA says it has made several changes to its design. The metal outer frame now comes with a...
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While the RTX 4090 operates at 450 W by default, the power delivery capability allows you to increase the power limit up to 600 W for overclocking. The card features a 23-phase VRM (20-phase GPU + 3-phase memory).
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I still don't quite understand the PSU cabling for the 4000 series..

A) I have a HX750 and was under the assumption I can just get one of the Corsair 12V 600W cables? Where do I even get one of these before gpu release date? I don't want to be waiting for a cable to turn up while staring at my new gpu.

B) What is the cable that comes in the box? Can these instead be plugged into my psu and right into the gpu?

Thanks to anyone that helps
 
netarangi said:
I still don't quite understand the PSU cabling for the 4000 series..
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ATX 3.0 has a new, high power, 12-pin connector designed for a new generation of graphics cards. As well as providing power this cable also provides information on the PSU itself telling the card how it can draw power from the supply. This connector is not present on earlier PSUs.

The adapter you can buy will plug into the new slot but won't provide the additional information to the card.
 
Mr Jack said:
ATX 3.0 has a new, high power, 12-pin connector designed for a new generation of graphics cards. As well as providing power this cable also provides information on the PSU itself telling the card how it can draw power from the supply. This connector is not present on earlier PSUs.

The adapter you can buy will plug into the new slot but won't provide the additional information to the card.
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Thanks for the reply. So with a hx750, I need to upgrade asap?

Only pcie5 PSU avaliable in NZ at the moment is the ASUS ROG Thor 1000W for $630NZD..

Or are you saying I'll be fine with the included adapter? Sorry my autism is peaking today
 
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I've got a hx850 platinum and wouldn't even dream of putting a 13700k/7800, ram, fans, storage and a potential 600w gpu on it.

Wait until more atx3 psus launch, I want corsair but they're not coming yet so probably going with the new Seasonic Vertex PX-1200.
 
netarangi said:
Thanks for the reply. So with a hx750, I need to upgrade asap?
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Corsair provide a special cable that plugs directly into the modular ports on your PSU (if it is compatible, there's a list on their website, it appears to cost £20 excluding shipping). I don't know what power draw this is rated to, best to ask Corsair directly.

Alternatively you can use a universal adapter that plugs into the standard connectors on your PSU (which is what would be bundled with the card), but this is obviously messier and will have longer cables.

I've seen there are concerns about how much power is going through these adapter cables and that they aren't rated for the power draw of high-end 40 series cards, or the transient spikes that ATX 3.0 PSUs are, but I don't know if this is a big issue or not (I'd assume Corsair wouldn't sell those cables if they were worried).
 
netarangi said:
Thanks for the reply. So with a hx750, I need to upgrade asap?
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I don't think we really know yet whether the adapter is absolutely fine or a bit of problem. I'd assume it's at least functional.

But, personally, if I was buying a card at 40x0 prices I'd think it worthwhile to get a directly compatible PSU.

Only pcie5 PSU avaliable in NZ at the moment is the ASUS ROG Thor 1000W for $630NZD..
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Sorry, I don't know whether that is a little or a lot. But I think quite a lot of these PSUs are coming out soon so prices should be okay.

Nothing to stop you running it with an adaptor for a bit then updating the PSU a bit later if you can't get one at a decent price straight away.
 
Mr Jack said:
I don't think we really know yet whether the adapter is absolutely fine or a bit of problem. I'd assume it's at least functional.

But, personally, if I was buying a card at 40x0 prices I'd think it worthwhile to get a directly compatible PSU.



Sorry, I don't know whether that is a little or a lot. But I think quite a lot of these PSUs are coming out soon so prices should be okay.

Nothing to stop you running it with an adaptor for a bit then updating the PSU a bit later if you can't get one at a decent price straight away.
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Yeah I'll try run it on my 750w for now and upgrade to a pcie5 psu when they're released. Cheers!
 
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