NVIDIA 4000 Series

BigBANGtheory · 16 May 2022 at 09:02

Grim5 said:
The NVIDIA Ada Lovelace AD102 GPU will feature up to 12 GPC (Graphics Processing Clusters). This is an increase of 70% versus GA102 which features only 7 GPCs.

however GA102 was in the 3080 product sku and AD102 is thought not to be in the 4080

beware of the smoke and mirrors, remember Nvidia invented the 90 class sku during Ampere purely to segment the market

Dave2150 · 16 May 2022 at 10:59

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 with 16128 CUDA cores and 450W TDP is allegedly twice as fast as RTX 3090 - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA Ada flagship RTX 4090 to be announced mid-July Kopite7kimi has new information on the flagship NVIDIA Ada graphics card. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 is to feature 126 Streaming Multiprocessors, which gives 16128 CUDA cores in total. That’s a lot less than previously rumored 140-142. As a...

videocardz.com

4090 = twice as fast as 3090 (rumour)

Take my money!

Wrinkly · 16 May 2022 at 11:23

Dave2150 said:
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 with 16128 CUDA cores and 450W TDP is allegedly twice as fast as RTX 3090 - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA Ada flagship RTX 4090 to be announced mid-July Kopite7kimi has new information on the flagship NVIDIA Ada graphics card. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 is to feature 126 Streaming Multiprocessors, which gives 16128 CUDA cores in total. That’s a lot less than previously rumored 140-142. As a...

videocardz.com

kopite7kimi
@kopite7kimi
OK, let's do a new summary.
RTX 4090, AD102-300, 16128FP32, 21Gbps 24G GDDR6X, 450W, ~2x3090.
I am disappointed with RDNA3.
That's all.

What news did I miss on RDNA3?

uscool · 16 May 2022 at 11:23

just getting sucked into Rumors again yeah good luck with that we never had anything thats been twice performance from gen to gen ? at most its been around 25% ??

wouldnt make sense for jump like that , better to do it by step by step , with AMD now competing maybe will get more than usual increase

uscool · 16 May 2022 at 11:30

Wrinkly said:
What news did I miss on RDNA3?

Dave seems to know something official ? or is emotionally attached to Nvidia and Intel :eek:

TonyTurbo78 · 16 May 2022 at 11:35

Double the perf of the 3090 lmao... Behave

gpuerrilla · 16 May 2022 at 11:41

Wrinkly said:
What news did I miss on RDNA3?

Agree, thought the same when I read that tweet.

Grim5 · 16 May 2022 at 12:19

Dave2150 said:
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 with 16128 CUDA cores and 450W TDP is allegedly twice as fast as RTX 3090 - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA Ada flagship RTX 4090 to be announced mid-July Kopite7kimi has new information on the flagship NVIDIA Ada graphics card. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 is to feature 126 Streaming Multiprocessors, which gives 16128 CUDA cores in total. That’s a lot less than previously rumored 140-142. As a...

videocardz.com

4090 = twice as fast as 3090 (rumour)

Take my money!

What happened to 600w?

Was MLID just making up stuff again for the last 6 months?

Grim5 · 16 May 2022 at 12:20

Wrinkly said:
What news did I miss on RDNA3?

The only new rumour I've seen is that AMD is launching up the stack instead of done with a big launch window starting with Navi 33 and by the time 31 arrives it's 6 months after the RTX4090 has launched

If that's not what he's referring to the I have no idea but the crux of the latest rumour is that the 7900xt/7950xt won't be arriving until March 2023

Gerard · 16 May 2022 at 12:28

Grim5 said:
What happened to 600w?

Was MLID just making up stuff again for the last 6 months?

That's what they do year in year out.

subbytna · 16 May 2022 at 12:30

Grim5 said:
What happened to 600w?

Was MLID just making up stuff again for the last 6 months?

MLID is WAY more MISS than HIT

JediFragger · 16 May 2022 at 12:32

Wouldn't surprise me if some top AiB models went to 600w.

Tommy_Here · 16 May 2022 at 13:18

I don't know where people are getting the 25% increase from. If we compare previous models based on the NAME only and not the gpu there's always been more than 25% increase.

980 > 780 more than 25%
980 Ti > 780 Ti more than 25%
1080 > 980 more than 25%
So on and so forth.

I'd expect the 4080 to be a good 60-70% faster than the 3080 which will put it at a good 30% faster than the 3090 Ti and if priced less than £700 should be able to do 4k144hz with a few tweaks here and there

ToOo · 16 May 2022 at 13:22

I've been sceptical of the rumours up until now but 450W for the 4090 is much more believable, that combined with 15% of the cuda cores being left on the table so that there is room for both a 3090TI and a Titan is very NVIDA.

One thing that not many people have mentioned is that while the rumoured FP32 performance is going to more or less double, the ram bandwith is only increasing by about 10%. On the surface you might think that could limit performance significantly but i have a feeling that it wont be all that bad. Looking at traditional Raster based games my guess is that it probably wont throttle performance at all, in God of War for example the memory bus utilization on a 3090 is only around 35%, so that leaves plenty of scope for more performance. On the other hand in ray traced games regularly see well above 50% bus utilisation, so i wouldnt be completely surprised if we see some strange scaling vs Ampere in RT games. That being said NVIDIA have significantly increased the on die cache for Lovelace similar to infinity cache for AMD on the 6900 series which make do just fine with a 256bit bus and 18GB/s memory. It's not unreasonable to think similar is possible for NVIDIA.

Dave2150 · 16 May 2022 at 13:44

Tommy_Here said:
I don't know where people are getting the 25% increase from. If we compare previous models based on the NAME only and not the gpu there's always been more than 25% increase.

980 > 780 more than 25%
980 Ti > 780 Ti more than 25%
1080 > 980 more than 25%
So on and so forth.

I'd expect the 4080 to be a good 60-70% faster than the 3080 which will put it at a good 30% faster than the 3090 Ti and if priced less than £700 should be able to do 4k144hz with a few tweaks here and there

You think the 4080 will be less than £700? Be very lucky for it to be under £1000 IMO.

3080 at £650 will never happen again, given the inflationary climate we're in, which is exacerbated by global supply issues etc etc.

uscool · 16 May 2022 at 14:04

Tommy_Here said:
I don't know where people are getting the 25% increase from. If we compare previous models based on the NAME only and not the gpu there's always been more than 25% increase.

980 > 780 more than 25%
980 Ti > 780 Ti more than 25%
1080 > 980 more than 25%
So on and so forth.

I'd expect the 4080 to be a good 60-70% faster than the 3080 which will put it at a good 30% faster than the 3090 Ti and if priced less than £700 should be able to do 4k144hz with a few tweaks here and there

one of Jay2cents rececnt uploads was saying typically been 25-30% generation over generation on the top tiers , this in actual games also they artificially do it and not want to push to far too soon , but with AMD getting closer might start pushing more

anything below 50% I will be disappointed

Cooper · 16 May 2022 at 14:51

Dave2150 said:
You think the 4080 will be less than £700? Be very lucky for it to be under £1000 IMO.

I'm pretty sure we'll see a £749-£799 sticker price for the 4080 FE models, which will leave the AIBs plenty of room to price their custom cards upto a £1000 or so.

uscool · 16 May 2022 at 15:18

Also with AMD competing they can't really increase too much

gpuerrilla · 16 May 2022 at 15:19

That really depends on how much of a % uplift we see from Ada, followed by how much this expensive vram seems to be. If they are not being greedy, you could see the FE pencil in at £699 although I would second @Cooper prices if the modules cant be stingy again.

JediFragger · 16 May 2022 at 15:21

They switched Ada to Linda at the last second...