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NVIDIA 4000 Series

jasonsony735 said:
Miss leading information , Most Games still use single Core ! I have i7 8700k and I won't be upgrading no point, if anything ill maybe lost 10 FPS MAX in 4k Gaming maybe not even that! 4k gaming is mainly GPU bound you can see that if you go look at the Benchmarks
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With 120Hz sure. But there are out there already 4k monitors with much higher refresh rate and often people who buy 4090 level of GPU also buy expensive new monitors with e.g. 240Hz refresh rate. In such case, in quite a few games 4090 seems to be CPU (Ryzen 7 5800x3D) bottlenecked, judging by quite a few reviewers - but only in these very high refresh rates. And no, most games do NOT use single core anymore, I don't know where you've seen only 1 core being used in new games. The main game logic usually runs on single core, but only as it's very hard to parallelize that (it has to wait for other things to happen before it can move to the next step etc.). However, physics, AI, sound etc. - each runs usually in separate thread and so can use other cores at will.
 
Jay85 said:
Oh yeah true, the FE card is the only one worth scalping if it came to it but its a hard push. With the current state of the world economies i don't think people will be more willing to fork out 2k+ for a gpu. Just my thoughts anyway.
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But is it really? According to info from various suppliers, NVIDIA has been producing them in huge quantity for months now (preparing for mining craze, which suddenly died). They are way overstocked now for what they actually predict will sell this year. Scalpers would have to be buying hundreds of them to make a dent, apparently. Though, we'll find out soon enough.
 
Tinek said:
But is it really? According to info from various suppliers, NVIDIA has been producing them in huge quantity for months now (preparing for mining craze, which suddenly died). They are way overstocked now for what they actually predict will sell this year. Scalpers would have to be buying hundreds of them to make a dent, apparently. Though, we'll find out soon enough.
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Gonna be interesting indeed! I mean nothing stopping them from holding stock and creating a demand, trickle feeding the community. The more desperate you become the more you're willing to pay.
 
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keyser van someone said:
My theory on the 4070 to 4080 12GB (and 4060 becoming 4070 I guess) rebrand is the performance was too good they don't want to 'give them away' as a mere 4070 !!

That and trying to sell the 3000 series stock pile.
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Your theory is wrong. J.H. said on record that all NVIDIA want is to manipulate the market to prevent price drops, uphold high margins and they're not worried about slow but steady sale - they can wait even few quarters to sell 3k series first. 4k simply had to make space for that, just to prevent price drops and margins being smaller, and hence the rename. NVIDIA simply want to keep having high margins from mining time as that's what shareholders demand.
 
keyser van someone said:
My theory on the 4070 to 4080 12GB (and 4060 becoming 4070 I guess) rebrand is the performance was too good they don't want to 'give them away' as a mere 4070 !!

That and trying to sell the 3000 series stock pile.
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How is their performance "too good"?
 
Jay85 said:
Gonna be interesting indeed! I mean nothing stopping them from holding stock and creating a demand, trickle feeding the community. The more desperate you become the more you're willing to pay.
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And that is much more likely than scalpers indeed. As long as it fits their plan of preventing price drops long term.
 
Noxia said:
One really heart-warming thing about all this is that a lot of forum members seem really concerned what others spend their money on. Looking out for one another, brings a tear to my eye.
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Lol so true. Many of us literally use our PC's all day every day for work and for our own enjoyment, so it feels like a worthwile investment even if its more than we originally wanted to spend
 
Curtis vincent said:
Lol so true. Many of us literally use our PC's all day every day for work and for our own enjoyment, so it feels like a worthwile investment even if its more than we originally wanted to spend
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Well, my work doesn't demand fast GPU, only entertainment does. Much harder to justify, aside "Shiny new toy, me want!". :) But yes, shiny new toy, me want! I shouldn't, definitely bad corpo sucking us dry but winter is coming, will save on heating? ;)
 
TNA said:
Ask Gibbo :cry::p
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Nvidia website !
Tinek said:
With 120Hz sure. But there are out there already 4k monitors with much higher refresh rate and often people who buy 4090 level of GPU also buy expensive new monitors with e.g. 240Hz refresh rate. In such case, in quite a few games 4090 seems to be CPU (Ryzen 7 5800x3D) bottlenecked, judging by quite a few reviewers - but only in these very high refresh rates. And no, most games do NOT use single core anymore, I don't know where you've seen only 1 core being used in new games. The main game logic usually runs on single core, but only as it's very hard to parallelize that (it has to wait for other things to happen before it can move to the next step etc.). However, physics, AI, sound etc. - each runs usually in separate thread and so can use other cores at will.
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Using it on LG C1 65" 120 so should be better for me for 4k gaming , if it doesn't then ill just spend 1k next month when the new CPU are out.
 
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