NVIDIA 4000 Series

[srekal34]

You work for the AIBS ? and know this for a fact ? Or because it's grey TIM you think it's all the same ? As has been proven by that video it is not normal TIM and a PCM TIM on the 4090FE. Even I didn't know that until he said what it was and knew PTM7000 as we have the stuff at work for our servers. Otherwise I would not had an idea what they used and thought it was normal stock grey TIM. Even Steve at GN didn't know and thought it was normal TIM.

That's quite easy to prove.
See Techpowerup photos of 4090 Strix - PCM does not have viscosity like that, this is clearly normal tim:

Another good picture of Colorful, this is 100% not PCM:

Compare it to FE photos that's using PCM, it's more solid state and dry:

I went through all the teardowns and only FE is using PCM - on the fence with MSI - rest is definitely just a strandard TIM. By STRIX being the coolest card out of the bunch - you can assume PCM is not needed.
And no, I am not assumming grey = tim. There are other differentiative characteristics than color.

With such a large die as GPU there is little benefit of PCM vs good TIM. The gains in laptops are more pronounced, because the dies are much smaller

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 PCI-Express Scaling​

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 PCI-Express Scaling

The new NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 is a graphics card powerhouse, but what happens when you run it on a PCI-Express 4.0 x8 bus? In our mini-review we've also tested various PCI-Express 3.0, 2.0 and 1.1 configs to get a feel for how FPS scales with bandwidth.

www.techpowerup.com

So at 4k there are no noticeable gains. Great to see as I don't fancy upgrading my 10900k anytime soon.

 

[DanF]

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 PCI-Express Scaling​

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 PCI-Express Scaling

The new NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 is a graphics card powerhouse, but what happens when you run it on a PCI-Express 4.0 x8 bus? In our mini-review we've also tested various PCI-Express 3.0, 2.0 and 1.1 configs to get a feel for how FPS scales with bandwidth.

www.techpowerup.com

ah that's really good to see, I'm on pcie 3.0 due to a riser cable in SFF case. Running near 4k so it won't be holding back much performance

 

[Greebo]

I presume you dont get an anti sag stand with the FE? Whats the best anti sage stand to buy please?

 

[srekal34]

I presume you dont get an anti sag stand with the FE? Whats the best anti sage stand to buy please?

This is by far the most elegant:

Lian Li GB-001 Anti Sag Bracket for VGA Cards - Black

Order Lian Li GB-001 Anti Sag Bracket for VGA Cards - Black now online and benefit from fast delivery.

www.overclockers.co.uk

 

[Grim5]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1582039714592624642

 

[Maccy]

@JediFragger @Richdog just an update, I disabled the Gigabyte Aorus service that was producing errors in the Event Viewer, and also tried capping FPS to 220, and managed about 30 mins of game play with no crashes

 

[^JP^]

I presume you dont get an anti sag stand with the FE? Whats the best anti sage stand to buy please?

Not even a hint of sag on the FE for me, the 3 screws into the IO bracket is very good.

Waterblock on order anyway

 

[K1LLER HORNET]

o wouldnt have GFE installed (in fact a lot of gamers wont touch GFE with a 10 foot barge pole!!!!)

I don't understand the hate behind GFE. It's not like it's intrusive.
It tells me when a new driver update is out and that's all I really use it for.

 

[Needles]

Got my zotac installed last night, really impressed with noise and temp and that’s with out of the box settings.

No complaints so far, going to try undervolting for additional efficiency.

 

[Greebo]

Whats the size of the 4090 die please? 25mm x 25mm>?>???

 

[Rup]

Biggest etailer have a TUF 4090 for £2.7k!
When even they're gouging what hope for the other etailers

 

[OC2000]

Anyone with an Asus RTX 4090 TUF or OC notice a solid red light next to the power connecter when the PC is turn off?

 

[Greebo]

This is by far the most elegant:

Lian Li GB-001 Anti Sag Bracket for VGA Cards - Black

Order Lian Li GB-001 Anti Sag Bracket for VGA Cards - Black now online and benefit from fast delivery.

www.overclockers.co.uk

I like it but does that give enough support? Surely its giving support at the end not needed?

 

[Greebo]

I don't understand the hate behind GFE. It's not like it's intrusive.
It tells me when a new driver update is out and that's all I really use it for.

Its a massive resource hog though which is why some people never install it.

 

[Grim5]

Whats the size of the 4090 die please? 25mm x 25mm>?>???

600mm2

 

[Greebo]

600nm2

Is it square? so 24.5mm by 24.5mm????

 

[JediFragger]

Anyone with an Asus RTX 4090 TUF or OC notice a solid red light next to the power connecter when the PC is turn off?

Yeah, seems normal.

Good news @Maccy !

 

[Mike 702]

Biggest etailer have a TUF 4090 for £2.7k!
When even they're gouging what hope for the other etailers

Wish I knew who this was lol

 

[Richdog]

@JediFragger @Richdog just an update, I disabled the Gigabyte Aorus service that was producing errors in the Event Viewer, and also tried capping FPS to 220, and managed about 30 mins of game play with no crashes

Nice! Windows Event viewer is usually a good way to identify problems and at least get to the general area of where the issue is.