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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Jay-G25 said:
yeah was going to say can check on the cablemod site itself , seems the seasonic and Asus psu use exactly the same cables / pinout going by the compatibility list https://cablemod.com/compatibility/ so the only difference between the 2 12vhpwr options is the style of the outer sleeving one being mod mesh the other mod flex... both same price :)
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Yeah exactly that's what I thought, The only thing I couldn't figure out which has only just dawned on me is it says both the 3 pin and 4 pin are good for 600w so if it's exactly the same cable and even for users who have 4 x PCIE outputs why would anyone pay more for the x 4 Pin? Or am I missing something.

I can't see any logical reason why anyone would buy the 4 x 8 Pin when it's exactly the same irrespective of number of outputs on their PSU.
 
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Yeah exactly that's what I thought, The only thing I couldn't figure out which has only just dawned on me is it says both the 3 pin and 4 pin are good for 600w so if it's exactly the same cable and even for users who have 4 x PCIE outputs why would anyone pay more for the x 4 Pin? Or am I missing something.

I can't see any logical reason why anyone would buy the 4 x 8 Pin when it's exactly the same irrespective of number of outputs on their PSU.
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from the faq on their site :)

  • WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 3 X 8-PIN AND 4 X 8-PIN 12VHPWR CABLES?​

    Both the 3 x 8-pin and the 4 x 8-pin versions of our 12VHPWR will work with the new NVIDIA 40 Series GPUs, provided your PSU meets or exceeds the minimum wattage requirements. The reason we offer both of these is for users who want extra redundancy for the power being supplied to their GPU.

  • DON’T PCI-E PORTS ONLY PROVIDE UP TO 150W PER PORT? HOW IS IT THAT A 3 X 8-PIN CABLE CAN BE SUFFICIENT TO POWER GPUS THAT REQUIRE UP TO 600W AT PEAK?​

    In truth, an 8-pin PCI-e port on modern PSUs can supply over 300W of power each (up to 342W, depending on model). Thus, two 8-pin PCI-e ports are more than enough to provide the required 600W. We provide both 3 x 8-pin and 4 x 8-pin versions of this cable for extra redundancy. **Please note that all 8 Pin PCI-e plugs need to be plugged in for the cable to function properly. If you order a 3 x 8-Pin or 4 x 8-Pin to 16-Pin, make sure that all of the 8-pin connectors are connected correctly to your PSU.**

  • DOES HAVING ONLY THREE 8-PIN CONNECTORS MEAN I WON’T BE ABLE TO OVERCLOCK?​

    That is not the case - both of our 3 x 8-pin and 4 x 8-pin can deliver the full 600W if requested by the GPU. This is assuming your PSU wattage is adequate according to manufacturer guidelines.

Support – CableMod

cablemod.com cablemod.com

Basically no need for the 4 x 8 pin at all unless you want to fill up more plugs on the psu for no reason :cry:
 
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Jay-G25 said:
from the faq on their site :)

  • WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 3 X 8-PIN AND 4 X 8-PIN 12VHPWR CABLES?​

    Both the 3 x 8-pin and the 4 x 8-pin versions of our 12VHPWR will work with the new NVIDIA 40 Series GPUs, provided your PSU meets or exceeds the minimum wattage requirements. The reason we offer both of these is for users who want extra redundancy for the power being supplied to their GPU.

  • DON’T PCI-E PORTS ONLY PROVIDE UP TO 150W PER PORT? HOW IS IT THAT A 3 X 8-PIN CABLE CAN BE SUFFICIENT TO POWER GPUS THAT REQUIRE UP TO 600W AT PEAK?​

    In truth, an 8-pin PCI-e port on modern PSUs can supply over 300W of power each (up to 342W, depending on model). Thus, two 8-pin PCI-e ports are more than enough to provide the required 600W. We provide both 3 x 8-pin and 4 x 8-pin versions of this cable for extra redundancy. **Please note that all 8 Pin PCI-e plugs need to be plugged in for the cable to function properly. If you order a 3 x 8-Pin or 4 x 8-Pin to 16-Pin, make sure that all of the 8-pin connectors are connected correctly to your PSU.**

  • DOES HAVING ONLY THREE 8-PIN CONNECTORS MEAN I WON’T BE ABLE TO OVERCLOCK?​

    That is not the case - both of our 3 x 8-pin and 4 x 8-pin can deliver the full 600W if requested by the GPU. This is assuming your PSU wattage is adequate according to manufacturer guidelines.

Support – CableMod

cablemod.com cablemod.com

Basically no need for the 4 x 8 pin at all unless you want to fill up more plugs on the psu for no reason :cry:
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Yep that's what I thought :D makes no sense getting the 4 pin more so that I have no intention of going over and it's locked anyway at 450w although I'm sure there's power spikes so I guess they have to cover to 600w aah well saved a few quid there as well haha.
 
This guy makes a very good point , lets hope Cablemode have Patent that 90 deg connector ... if they have i imagine they will be laughing all the way to the bank as could be essential for all the 4000 series and stop all this worry.

 
Jay-G25 said:
from the faq on their site :)

  • WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 3 X 8-PIN AND 4 X 8-PIN 12VHPWR CABLES?​

    Both the 3 x 8-pin and the 4 x 8-pin versions of our 12VHPWR will work with the new NVIDIA 40 Series GPUs, provided your PSU meets or exceeds the minimum wattage requirements. The reason we offer both of these is for users who want extra redundancy for the power being supplied to their GPU.

  • DON’T PCI-E PORTS ONLY PROVIDE UP TO 150W PER PORT? HOW IS IT THAT A 3 X 8-PIN CABLE CAN BE SUFFICIENT TO POWER GPUS THAT REQUIRE UP TO 600W AT PEAK?​

    In truth, an 8-pin PCI-e port on modern PSUs can supply over 300W of power each (up to 342W, depending on model). Thus, two 8-pin PCI-e ports are more than enough to provide the required 600W. We provide both 3 x 8-pin and 4 x 8-pin versions of this cable for extra redundancy. **Please note that all 8 Pin PCI-e plugs need to be plugged in for the cable to function properly. If you order a 3 x 8-Pin or 4 x 8-Pin to 16-Pin, make sure that all of the 8-pin connectors are connected correctly to your PSU.**

  • DOES HAVING ONLY THREE 8-PIN CONNECTORS MEAN I WON’T BE ABLE TO OVERCLOCK?​

    That is not the case - both of our 3 x 8-pin and 4 x 8-pin can deliver the full 600W if requested by the GPU. This is assuming your PSU wattage is adequate according to manufacturer guidelines.

Support – CableMod

cablemod.com cablemod.com

Basically no need for the 4 x 8 pin at all unless you want to fill up more plugs on the psu for no reason :cry:
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yeah but for the better Corsair PSUs the optimal way is 2x8 to the 16. Less cables, cheaper to make but for some reason need to pay more to get it custom made. Pretty weird
 
DanF said:
yeah but for the better Corsair PSUs the optimal way is 2x8 to the 16. Less cables, cheaper to make but for some reason need to pay more to get it custom made. Pretty weird
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Yeah the corsair one is very good to and as you say even less clutter but doesn't look as nice if that sort of thing bothers you , price wise there isn't a lot between the 2 the corsair one is probably going to cost £30 with delivery ( £20 cable and £10 delivery ? ) where as a cablmods one will cost £34 and that is with it coming from China so international shipping although they use DPD :)

I popped off my cable again and can clearly see they done a proper job with it being 12 wires for 12 pins plus the 2 sense wires, good job Cablemods :D

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So I took my Corsair cable out tonight to take a look as my bend wasn’t great until I took the side off the other night. All looks to be ok, no signs of any damage or burn. I emailed cable mod about their adapter and they couldn’t confirm if the Zotac will be supported, looking at the dimensions of the adapter I do think it will be too big.
 
Jay-G25 said:
Yeah the corsair one is very good to and as you say even less clutter but doesn't look as nice if that sort of thing bothers you , price wise there isn't a lot between the 2 the corsair one is probably going to cost £30 with delivery ( £20 cable and £10 delivery ? ) where as a cablmods one will cost £34 and that is with it coming from China so international shipping although they use DPD :)

I popped off my cable again and can clearly see they done a proper job with it being 12 wires for 12 pins plus the 2 sense wires, good job Cablemods :D

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Looks so much better and quality compared to that mess of an adaptor, The sooner my vertical mount and the cable arrives I can finally close my panel and forget about it and enjoy gaming on this beast without keep looking over my shoulder for smoke lol :D
 
Minusorange said:

Seems if you're using a custom cable your card is safu
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Jay still can't get the cable to melt though.no point saying of look the cable is 60c

it gets almost that hot anyway from the heat radiating off the backplate, you could probably heat up a cup of coffee from the heat of the backplate right next to the chip

Jay seem obsessed with the wires but it must be the actual pins not being properly in the connector


I just checked my cable to be on the safe side.
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It takes a lot of force before you hear the click when pushing it back in, he should do a video where he doesn't push it fully inside or slightly out on one side like what would happen if it wasn't licked in secure and you tried to bend the cable to one side
 
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Paul says at 11:37 that he thinks if one of the side wires breaks off but still has a slight connection, its the slight connection that causes the melting

In fact looking at the picture he shows at 12:01, the outer two wires are only soldered to one point, whereas the inner two are soldered to two?
 
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I wonder how many people who have 4090s think they don’t have any melting when in fact they do? Obviously they might be afraid to disconnect and reconnect again as that’s one of their 30 lives lost.

In effect if you buy a 4090 presumably you need to bypass the included adaptor and source your own connectivity (eg cable mods).

I get that many people want the latest and greatest GPU but it’s honestly a joke how this is transpiring. Some would have bought new PSUs to accompany this card as well only to be let down by basic connectivity requirements.
 
Mikeey said:
I wonder how many people who have 4090s think they don’t have any melting when in fact they do? Obviously they might be afraid to disconnect and reconnect again as that’s one of their 30 lives lost.
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Pretty sure they would smell the plastic, isn't that how the first guy found out
I wonder how many people who have 4090s think they don’t have any melting when in fact they do? Obviously they might be afraid to disconnect and reconnect again as that’s one of their 30 lives lost.
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yea only 30... I'm sure 90% of pc users never even use 1/3 of those

Some would have bought new PSUs to accompany this card as well only to be let down by basic connectivity requirements.
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then they should have done their research and bought a new spec psu that doesn't need the adapter lol
 
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brostradamus said:
maybe he was talking abt how the cable ONLY costs 25% of the value of a good quality PSU
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It is a specialist custom cable, of course it isn't going to be super cheap. It is still however significantly cheaper than having to buy a new PSU.

Mikeey said:
Obviously they might be afraid to disconnect and reconnect again as that’s one of their 30 lives lost.
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Just... lol...
 
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Jay-G25 said:
This guy makes a very good point , lets hope Cablemode have Patent that 90 deg connector ... if they have i imagine they will be laughing all the way to the bank as could be essential for all the 4000 series and stop all this worry.
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I dont think you can patent that. There is no novel idea involved, 90 degree adapters existed before, this is just for a new connector.
All they could patent is the look of it, rest doesnt apply.
 
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