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the thought did cross my mind too that would a retailer admit there was a problem...but i don't think he is lying when he posted on here somewhere about it a day or 2 ago.

No, I agree if that's what he has said then fair enough, but every day that goes by you could well have a couple being packaged up and on route so I wouldn't expect 0 (zero) a couple of days ago to still be 0 today. They would also not be able to confirm real numbers if they sent on the cards to the manufacturer (as an RMA) as that end probably has to acknowledge - so I naturally expect a lag?
 
It's Palits & Zoatcs at £2k that arent selling, no surprise there.
Bet if TUF/Strix/Suprim were that price, they'd sell rapidly.
I agree but the Zotac I got is base level and it's as fast as top 100 hall of fame with only 450W and 3 power plugs. Plus I have a longer warranty than all other vendors. Should be under £1800 though.
 
I agree but the Zotac I got is base level and it's as fast as top 100 hall of fame with only 450W and 3 power plugs. Plus I have a longer warranty than all other vendors. Should be under £1800 though.
I'm sure the zotac is a good card but when you're spending that kind of money most people want a tier 1 vendor. Especially the Suprim as it looks great.
I think Builzoid has crticised the Palit's, maybe why not selling.
 
I'm sure the zotac is a good card but when you're spending that kind of money most people want a tier 1 vendor. Especially the Suprim as it looks great.
I think Builzoid has crticised the Palit's, maybe why not selling.
The Palits are one heck of an acquired taste to be fair. Zotac has warranty and the only rounded design. Having said this I would not have bought if it weren't for the fact it has a 5 year warranty and that performance of all cards overclocked on air is within 0.1% or so. My card just does 3075mhz without tweaking or more than 450w. There are people with £2500 cards that can't do this with 600w. This gen you simply buy the cheapest card you can from any vendor and it'll be in the ballpark.
 
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iirc the Palit stock levels were low to none existent on 12th october, there was some delay to getting them onto the shelves. those appearing now might be there because retailers have just received their initial batches of stock. could be wrong though, can't remember where i read about it.
 
iirc the Palit stock levels were low to none existent on 12th october, there was some delay to getting them onto the shelves. those appearing now might be there because retailers have just received their initial batches of stock. could be wrong though, can't remember where i read about it.
I think you're right most people that got early cards have a Zotac tbh. Those of us that paid under £1800 should be advising people without a 4090 to wait for AMD to release in order to secure one for a similar price. These £2000+ restocks are silly especially when the pound at it's absolute weakest in 50 years got us our £1800 cards.
 
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The Palits are one heck of an acquired taste to be fair. Zotac has warranty and the only rounded design. Having said this I would not have bought if it weren't for the fact it has a 5 year warranty and that performance of all cards overclocked on air is within 0.1% or so. My card just does 3075mhz without tweaking or more than 450w. There are people with £2500 cards that can't do this with 600w. This gen you simply buy the cheapest card you can from any vendor and it'll be in the ballpark.
You only get a two-year warranty with Palits and if you have to RMA, they go all the way to Hong Kong.
 
Are Palits and Zotacs the unfashionable budget brands? a bit like Asda essentials.

Not sure TBH. My old Zotac 2080Ti hasn’t missed a beat and it’s still going strong over 4 years later in my sons PC.

OC’d from day one too, and still one year left on the warranty.
 
Are Palits and Zotacs the unfashionable budget brands? a bit like Asda essentials.
Nope, depends on their card model, some are tier 1 cards and some not, depends on the model. Last gen Gamerocks were one of the best built and quality components card and had a better VRM than some of the regular top brands. Depends on the generation and the components they used at the time for the models. This time 4090s have had a downgrade in my opinion they have not used all VRM spaces and used cheaper components but funny thing is these cards with the lower quality components have no coil whine.. So maybe they did that because of the coil whine issue and when I say lower quality components I mean not the regular high end well known brand components, they are all in spec of course.
 
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Well, more like Aldi :)
But seriously, I would have paid hundreds over RRP for say a Suprim, not so much for a palit/inno/zotac. These have traditionally been the budget brands.
Everybody seems to go for Asus Strix even though there is no point with the 4090 it does not perform any better than the cheaper models you are just paying for the name and to be one of the cool kids.
 
Everybody seems to go for Asus Strix even though there is no point with the 4090 it does not perform any better than the cheaper models you are just paying for the name and to be one of the cool kids.
Yes and the current one is quite ugly too. Not as bad as the palit gamerocks though!
 
Everybody seems to go for Asus Strix even though there is no point with the 4090 it does not perform any better than the cheaper models you are just paying for the name and to be one of the cool kids.
I’ve had four different 4090’s (don’t ask but there is a logical explanation), and three different AIB models. There was almost no difference between them, other than cooler noise and performance. Despite the different power limits, they all clocked to similar levels within 25-50Mhz and were separated by no more than a few percent in performance at most. Therefore my recommendation would be to go for the cheapest model that has the most appealing cooler, based on the memory junction, hot spot temps, and noise profile.
 
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My 1080ti Zotac amp extreme was regarded as the best by many, just they not fashionable. im in the market but this time round I can not see any reason to spend 500 quid extra than a FE which im waiting to order, that 500 quid is half way to an LG 32 inch 4k

Personally I think the FE is the best looking of the lot.

I have a 3080 Ti FE and it's a classy looking card, and well built, to boot.
 
I’ve had four different 4090’s (don’t ask but there is a logical explanation), and three different AIB models. There was almost no difference between them, other than cooler noise and performance. Despite the different power limits, they all clocked to similar levels within 25-50Mhz and were separated by no more than a few percent in performance at most. Therefore my recommendation would be to go for the cheapest model that has the most appealing cooler, based on the memory junction, hot spot temps, and noise profile.

Which 4 did you have Matt ? Also which out of the four did you rate and one you decided was the keeper and why ? Also how was the coil whine between them ? So far only had my hands on 3 models the ASUS TUF, Suprim X and Zotac trinity and sadly they all whined and Suprim X was the worst then the TUF and then the Trinity in that order.
 
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