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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Sorry AIB?
AIB= Add In Board . Basically any GPU that isn't a Founders Edition is classed as an AIB and made by companies such as Asus, Gigabyte, Zotac, Palit, Previously EVGA etc etc . Different coolers for potentially better cooling and some are overclocked a little from factory with different power limits . The Palit 3080Ti you have now is an AIB :D


 
They sold out instantly , couple on ebay for the lovely price of £2000 :cry: OCUK has stock though with a couple coming in around £100 over msrp for the aib cards.
They were available for 2-3 mins, got one in my cart but as have 4090 FE dont think it would have let me buy.
 
They were available for 2-3 mins, got one in my cart but as have 4090 FE dont think it would have let me buy.
I got a notification on the app at 2 pm and posted on here at the same time about it but as soon as i clicked link they were all gone . I had no interest in buying one as i have a 4090 FE myself but was interested if they actually came into stock for any longer than 1 min but it just said SOLD OUT instantly for me :cry:
 
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There seem to be a lot of Palit and Zotac AIBs around, these also seem to be closest to MSRP. Are they any good?
Yeah they are decent cards , PCB not as packed with electrical components as the more expensive brands but still absolutely fine for what is being asked of them , this generation is more of a case of what one is the cheapest and which looks the best as performance wise they are all pretty much the same give or take 1-2% when overclocking . If planning to run them stock or lower the power then any of them will do :)
 
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There seem to be a lot of Palit and Zotac AIBs around, these also seem to be closest to MSRP. Are they any good?
I have a Zotac and kick myself almost every day about not buying a more expensive card that runs at the same performance. No problems so far and there is a 5 year warranty. Not sure about the Palit cards but I saw a tear down video and it looks like they cheaper out on the power phases and capacitors but if you run at stock speed you should be fine anway.
 
You'll find it a lot easier/better price when it comes time to sell your GPU, with say an FE/Asus/Suprim etc.
So TCO may actually be lower than Zotac/Palit etc.
 
Are they always the last left because stores have more stock, or because the brands have less familiarity? :confused:

Historically they are known for generally doing the bare minimum. I seem to remember Palit taking exactly the same cooler from their 3080 (which was barely adequate) and using it on their 3090.
 
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Well the top 3 AIB hierarchy for Radeon is Sapphire, Powercolor & XFX.For Nvidia i would include PNY(Paris to New York) together with Palit & Zotac in that "not so familiar" tier.That pack should start making mobos, etc so we are more likely to buy their GPU products because of brand name familiarity.
 
I would say the more tech savvy would expect a more premium designed product when stumping up £2k, and the Palits, Zotacs, etc are designed around the reference design, which as mentioned above is the bare minimum starter product.

Now don't get me wrong they are functional cards and have warranty etc, and some people aren't fussed in the slightest, because let's face it ANY 4090 is going to be a fast GPU. But obviously some are more fussed, and that's why they stay on the shelves longer.

There are plenty of reviews and teardowns etc to get yourself informed and choose the right card for you. Me personally, I love the design of the FE cards, the sleek professional look they have. And this 4090 will be my 2nd FE GPU.

I also like the TUF cards, and how they have boosted the power stages and cooling setup, while still being a 'base' model. It's like a tricked up reference model.

IMO :)
 
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I would say the more tech savvy would expect a more premium designed product when stumping up £2k, and the Palits, Zotacs, etc are designed around the reference design, which as mentioned above is the bare minimum starter product.

Now don't get me wrong they are functional cards and have warranty etc, and some people aren't fussed in the slightest, because let's face it ANY 4090 is going to be a fast GPU. But obviously some are more fussed, and that's why they stay on the shelves longer.

There are plenty of reviews and teardowns etc to get yourself informed and choose the right card for you. Me personally, I love the design of the FE cards, the sleek professional look they have. And this 4090 will be me 2nd FE GPU.

I also like the TUF cards, and how they have boosted the power stages and cooling setup, while still being a 'base' model. It's like a tricked up reference model.

IMO :)
2K.

Fancy picture designs on the cooler like back in the day, Nvidia metallic case badge, Nvidia Hoody, Free mouse, 3 months of XBOX Ultimate, 3 up and coming games bundled.
That would be sweet, it's still a rip off even with that.
 
You'll find it a lot easier/better price when it comes time to sell your GPU, with say an FE/Asus/Suprim etc.
So TCO may actually be lower than Zotac/Palit etc.
The difference in price you will save at initial purchase will be higher than any potential gains when you sell it though. For example I saved £390 when my Aorus Master 4090 died and I replaced it with a Zotac Airo extreme 4090. If I was selling both cards in two years I doubt I could get much more than a £100 for the aorus.
 
I would say the more tech savvy would expect a more premium designed product when stumping up £2k, and the Palits, Zotacs, etc are designed around the reference design, which as mentioned above is the bare minimum starter product.

Now don't get me wrong they are functional cards and have warranty etc, and some people aren't fussed in the slightest, because let's face it ANY 4090 is going to be a fast GPU. But obviously some are more fussed, and that's why they stay on the shelves longer.

There are plenty of reviews and teardowns etc to get yourself informed and choose the right card for you. Me personally, I love the design of the FE cards, the sleek professional look they have. And this 4090 will be me 2nd FE GPU.

I also like the TUF cards, and how they have boosted the power stages and cooling setup, while still being a 'base' model. It's like a tricked up reference model.

IMO :)
The reference design this time around is actually good though and the Palit cards are sub reference in that they have worse power phases and capacitors than the FE. Agree on the TUF card though and would have got this but the price on overclockers was just stupid
 
The reference design this time around is actually good though and the Palit cards are sub reference in that they have worse power phases and capacitors than the FE. Agree on the TUF card though and would have got this but the price on overclockers was just stupid

I can't comment on the 20 series, but I know the 30 & 40 series cards have three (sort of) variants. The very basic reference design, the founder edition (custom only to Nvidia) and then AIB 'upgraded' variants.

I had a TUF 3080, which by some miracle I got at release price from OCUK, which was excellent. Then moved up to a 3090FE, and now the 4090FE.

I think with how good the FE models are, especially as they undercut all AIB's on price, it's totally understandable why EVGA pulled out of the market...How can the AIB's compete with Nvidia at the current (ridiculous) price point, while offering something extra and still making money and making sales.

Back on track, yeah I was hoping for a 4090 TUF initially, but availability and price just got way out of hand for me. So slumming it with the FE :D
 
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