NVIDIA 4000 Series

Chuk_Chuk · 6 Dec 2022 at 15:36

delta0 said:
It’s speculative but 5th Jan is the expected date.

Probably an announcment. Nobody in their right mind launches a product right after christmas.
when is CES? That is the one that happen in January right?

Wintermute2 said:
...the 4070 ti will be a rebadged version of the 4080 that wasn't a 4080.

They would get slated in reviews as it would be them openly and publicly admitting, that they did try and sell us a rebadged ~~4060ti~~ 4070ti as a 4080

delta0 · 6 Dec 2022 at 15:42

Chuk_Chuk said:
Probably an announcment. Nobody in their right mind launches a product right after christmas.
when is CES? That is the one that happen in January right?

They would get slated in reviews as it would be them openly and publicly admitting, that they did try and sell us a rebadged ~~4060ti~~ 4070ti as a 4080

CES seems likely to be the announcement. I’m not sure when they would go on sale after that. The suggestion is also January and that it has the same spec as the unlaunched 4080.

speeduk · 6 Dec 2022 at 16:16

Bizarre said:
I noticed this also when I first installed my 4090, there was no dlss 3 option, and after a little digging I found the patch hasn't even been released yet to the general public, for whatever reason? I guess it's just a case of keeping your eyes open for the next patch and hoping dlss 3.0 is included.

Yes I thought as much.

Dicehunter · 6 Dec 2022 at 17:29

3090Ti to 4090, The performance uplift is very impressive, Not exactly the same time of day but same position in Assassins Creed Valhalla.

3090Ti 1440P max settings.

4090 1440P max settings.

50 watts less with nearly 100FPS more, Very impressive IMO.

What I found very impressive though is the power saving, Capping the FPS to the 3090Ti of 128 the power usage goes down 146 watts from what the 3090Ti was pulling.

I do play at 4K on my 4K monitor but this was just a fun comparison.

JediFragger · 6 Dec 2022 at 17:37

They really pulled out all the stops with the 4090 @Dicehunter , a lovely lovely card

Dicehunter · 6 Dec 2022 at 17:41

JediFragger said:
They really pulled out all the stops with the 4090 @Dicehunter , a lovely lovely card

Even at 4K max settings I was gob smacked getting 160FPS in AC:Valhalla riding in the countryside, I had to double check I was actually running at 4K, It's ludicrous and I love it

Jay85 · 6 Dec 2022 at 17:43

If there's no 4090 FE drop this week then it will be officially 1 month since the last drop, while every other region has been getting regular weekly drops.

SpartaP · 6 Dec 2022 at 18:10

Dicehunter said:
Even at 4K max settings I was gob smacked getting 160FPS in AC:Valhalla riding in the countryside, I had to double check I was actually running at 4K, It's ludicrous and I love it

I know right. The 4090 is a very impressive all rounder

Jay-G25 · 6 Dec 2022 at 18:39

Jay85 said:
If there's no 4090 FE drop this week then it will be officially 1 month since the last drop, while every other region has been getting regular weekly drops.

They need to drive up demand in the UK , absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that

Dicehunter · 6 Dec 2022 at 18:44

Jay-G25 said:
They need to drive up demand in the UK , absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that

I think the US has priority on stock when it comes to the FE.

Jay-G25 · 6 Dec 2022 at 18:45

Dicehunter said:
I think the US has priority on stock when it comes to the FE.

EU seems to get drops on a regular basis compared to us in UK so seems like we are 3rd in line and get what we are given :cry:

Dicehunter · 6 Dec 2022 at 18:57

Jay-G25 said:
EU seems to get drops on a regular basis compared to us in UK so seems like we are 3rd in line and get what we are given

Well we are fast approaching 3rd world status so it makes sense we're 3rd for everything else.

Kelt · 6 Dec 2022 at 18:59

Dicehunter said:
Well we are fast approaching 3rd world status so it makes sense we're 3rd for everything else.

Took the words right out of my mouth, was just about to post the same thing.

Joxeon · 6 Dec 2022 at 19:44

Chuk_Chuk said:
Considering the 4070 isn't out yet and has no release date, I can't see the ti version launching Jan.

I don't think it is possible for the 4070 to be on par with a 3090 unless it is on the GA103 die.

I've enjoyed 4070 like performance for over 2 years now for £649.

LtMatt · 6 Dec 2022 at 19:54

Joxeon said:
I've enjoyed 4070 like performance for over 2 years now for £649.

I heard it has 10GB of VRAM too.

delta0 · 6 Dec 2022 at 19:58

Chuk_Chuk said:
Considering the 4070 isn't out yet and has no release date, I can't see the ti version launching Jan.

I don't think it is possible for the 4070 to be on par with a 3090 unless it is on the GA103 die.

It’s probably on the AD104 die which has 7.5bn more transistors than the 3090. It’s speculation at the moment but the initial indication is the 4070 is going to be quicker than the 3090 and significantly more so in ray tracing.

LtMatt said:
I heard it has 10GB of VRAM too.

Likely 10 for the 4070 and 12 for the Ti.

Rup · 6 Dec 2022 at 20:00

Most EU countries dont have an FE store, at least we do.

Joxeon · 6 Dec 2022 at 20:17

delta0 said:
It’s probably on the AD104 die which has 7.5bn more transistors than the 3090. It’s speculation at the moment but the initial indication is the 4070 is going to be quicker than the 3090 and significantly more so in ray tracing.

Likely 10 for the 4070 and 12 for the Ti.

A 160 bit bus on a 10gb 4070 is likely going to hobble performance similar to what we've just seen with the 3060 8gb, even the unlaunched 4080 12gb didn't look any faster than a 3090 and that had a 192 bus and a less cut down die.

Frenzy · 6 Dec 2022 at 20:19

NVIDIA is lowering GeForce RTX 4090/4080 pricing in Europe by 5% - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 40 series now 5% cheaper in Europe The GPU maker is adjusting pricing for desktop Ada GPUs. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 has dropped to €1,859 from €1,949, while GeForce RTX 4080 is now available at €1,399 from €1,469. These are the new prices of RTX 40 GPUs in Europe according to...

videocardz.com

Needs to drop more

Chuk_Chuk · 6 Dec 2022 at 20:20

delta0 said:
It’s probably on the AD104 die which has 7.5bn more transistors than the 3090. It’s speculation at the moment but the initial indication is the 4070 is going to be quicker than the 3090 and significantly more so in ray tracing.

Likely 10 for the 4070 and 12 for the Ti.

So the 4080 12Gb was shown by Nvidia to be slower in raster than the 3090ti. The 3090ti is about 7% faster than a 3090 according to techpowerup.
For the 4070 to have 10GB they will need to cut the chip down. So best case it is on par with a 3090 if it has 10GB. Being quite charitable to Nvidia with these estimates.

If they don't cut it down and do a straight rebrand, then the best case is that it will be slightly faster than a 3090.