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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Joxeon said:
None of the cards are worth the money
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This is my problem with them. Cards themselves are fine. Had they been in the £650-£700 region I would have probably got one for some benching and the shiny. But nothing I play now needs the extra power for my needs over my 3080 Ti anyway.

Besides I only somewhat recently upgraded from my 3070 which netted me 50% performance for £185 :D

Roll on next gen I say. Hopefully we get a meaningful upgrade in price for performance in that price range this time :)
 
ICDP said:
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Agree, other thing that popped up is maybe people also do not have fresh components so are on AM4 or intel older gens that wont make use of the 4090. Lets face it after a £1200+ card your not also going to want to upgrade cpu+board+ram+psu dumping another grand on top. Too much, so maybe people as you say kept their normal case setup and dropped in a card. Definitely think people are waking up to the greedy pricing and so far its showing.

Catanonia said:
Well if I am going to drop big bucks, may as well go large and probably see me into the next series 5000 without the need to upgrade.
Add that to that I have recently upgraded to 13900 etc etc, well what the darn, may as well go big.

Luckily I can afford it now, so may as well do it now.
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Reinforces the point. If people can afford then nvidia. Those holding back, the above.
 
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Hi everyone, I’m up and and running with my Gigabyte RTX 4090 'Gaming OC 24G' and very happy with it. Glad I cancelled my RTX 4080 order and paid extra for this. It runs cool (60-65c max observed, generally lower though), it’s quiet with no noticeable coil whine. Board power draw is 450w max - on average quite a bit less though. This is all based on data reported in GPU-Z. The included mounting bracket works perfectly too and there is no sag. The GPU itself is very solid and well built. I purchased it officially at MSRP (£100 more than FE). Warranty is extended from 3yrs to 4yrs with online registration within first 30 days of purchase.
 
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OverDrive said:
Hi everyone, I’m up and and running with my Gigabyte RTX 4090 OC and very happy with it. Glad I cancelled my RTX 4080 order and paid extra for this. It runs cool (60-65c max observed, generally lower though), it’s quiet with no noticeable coil whine. Board power draw is 450w max - on average quite a bit less though. This is all based on data reported in GPU-Z. The included mounting bracket works perfectly too and there is no sag. The GPU itself is very solid and well built. I purchased it officially at MSRP (£100 more than FE). Warranty is extended from 3yrs to 4yrs with online registration within first 30 days of purchase.
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Nice one.
I've got the QD OLED as well - how do you find the 4090 with it?
 
Prices are crazy. At the end of the day it's just a back plate, cheap PCB, chip, few capacitors, memory, chunk of aluminium and 3 small fans. Probably cost £150 to make and sell for 10 times the price
 
smeemi said:
Nice one.
I've got the QD OLED as well - how do you find the 4090 with it?
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Absolutely fantastic - it was a replacement for my 6.5yr old IPS LG ultrawide. It's incredible how far things have come. The HDR is mind blowing in MS flight simulator, it's so vivid and looks simply amazing. I could not go back now, the difference is night and day. I'm still learning about the monitor and the colour maps/HDR profiles etc. It's butter smooth with the RTX 4090 though and FreeSync Premium Pro is working very well with the NVIDIA card.
 
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I think the reality is most people see the only thing the 4080 does better, is RT and most people don't seem to give a crap about RT. No matter how much RT fans bleat to the contrary, it is really not high on tha majority's must have list. I mean the best I can say is that I personally consider considering it, so £150 extra for a 4080 is just about within "worth it to me" territory, but certainly only just and only because both are over £1k. So personally at current pricing I would be edging more towards a 4080 for the better RT.

Of course power efficiency matters as well but 50W extra over a 4080 is not deal breaking. The other issues I think will be solved in drivers.

All things considered £150 - £200 less cost for similar or slightly better raster, an extra 8GB VRAM, smaller size and uses normal power connectors. Just those points alone clearly make it more attractive for many people. Not to mention that £150 - £200 will get you your RAM, or a motherboard, or an extra SSD, or bring you up a tier (or even two) on your CPU.

So I can see a 4080 price drop soon considering how well received the 7900 XTX has been by the actual people that matter (buyers). I mean as you pointed out, Nvidia dropped some RTX 4080 FE stock to "disrupt" the 7900 XTX launch and they are still in stock 8 hours later. That level of "up yours Nvidia" from buyers is unheard off. So if Nvidia do yet another 4080/4090 price drop then AMD just need to do the same, the 7900 XTX still remains a more attractive proposition because it "costs under £1k".

Strangely even though I would take a 4080 at current prices. If the 7900 XTX was £950 and the 4080 was £1100, I would have had the, "it's under £1k" feels and the 4080 would not get a look in.
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I don't think the 7900xtx has been well met. On the contrary, people sound very "meh" about it and the reason seems to be that AMD mishandled the ball. They promised large improvements in performance that just aren't there in the testing, so the pricing is on a par with the 4080 when you take other factors in to account, meaning it's too expensive for what it is. It's a difficult thing to get the NVIDIA-boys away from their favourite manufacturer and they need more than "it's cheaper" they need "it's seriously good value" and the truth is tha the 7900xtx is not. Most people just want "someone else" to buy the 7900xtx to force NVIDIA to drop prices so they can buy a 4080, and I really don't think that's going to happen. NVIDIA may well drop prices in the coming months but I don't think by much. Maybe over the next two years they will normalise to some degree, but people who want a 4080 for Christmas are just going to have to lower their expectations, and so far I don't see any sign of that happening.
 
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SpellowHouse said:
I don't think the 7900xtx has been well met. On the contrary, people sound very "meh" about it and the reason seems to be that AMD mishandled the ball. They promised large improvements in performance that just aren't there in the testing, so the pricing is on a par with the 4080 when you take other factors in to account, meaning it's too expensive for what it is. It's a difficult thing to get the NVIDIA-boys away from their favourite manufacturer and they need more than "it's cheaper" they need "it's seriously good value" and the truth is tha the 7900xtx is not. Most people just want "someone else" to buy the 7900xtx to force NVIDIA to drop prices so they can buy a 4080, and I really don't think that's going to happen. NVIDIA may well drop prices in the coming months but I don't think by much. Maybe over the next two years they will normalise to some degree, but people who want a 4080 for Christmas are just going to have to lower their expectations, and so far I don't see any sign of that happening.
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AMD for the win :)
 
SpellowHouse said:
I don't think the 7900xtx has been well met. On the contrary, people sound very "meh" about it and the reason seems to be that AMD mishandled the ball. They promised large improvements in performance that just aren't there in the testing, so the pricing is on a par with the 4080 when you take other factors in to account, meaning it's too expensive for what it is.
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I agree - the reviews overall seem to have been 'good effort but too expensive'. I think the 7900XTX has potential (if they can improve the performance through driver updates) but even with the raster gains over the 4080 in some games, it strikes me as having lesser value (currently) than the 4080 (which is also terrible value compare to its predecessor).

To qualify that a bit more, if all people were interested in was raster performance (as @ICDP suggests), why not just buy a 6900XT? It's a lot less money and still beastly in raster. I think 7900XTX buyers *want* the RT performance but I also think they're going to be disappointed by what they get. On average, the 7900XTX looks to be on par with a 3090 (which is great!) *but* even the 3090 Ti still needs to use DLSS Performance to get above 60fps in a game like Cyberpunk with all the bells and whistles turned on.

FSR 2.x is improving but it's still considerably behind DLSS when it comes to its performance mode (and still lags in terms of the number of games it's implemented in compared to DLSS) - this will improve in time, but right now, with this performance, if you *are* looking to play RT games with a 7900XTX you're going to get a considerably lesser experience than even RTX 3090/Ti owners (let alone the 4080/90).
 
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OverDrive said:
Absolutely fantastic - it was a replacement for my 6.5yr old IPS LG ultrawide. It's incredible how far things have come. The HDR is mind blowing in MS flight simulator, it's so vivid and looks simply amazing. I could not go back now, the difference is night and day. I'm still learning about the monitor and the colour maps/HDR profiles etc. It's butter smooth with the RTX 4090 though and FreeSync Premium Pro is working very well with the NVIDIA card.
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Thanks guys you cost me another £929, I just bought an Alienware 34 QD-OLED Gaming Monitor - AW3423DWF :)
 
I have the AW3423DW. It's brilliant for gaming and fine for productivity (I use it as my daily driver alongside an AW3418HW and an AOC G2460PG with brightness/contrast turned down to c.50% to avoid burn-in)
 
How quickly are you guys finding that RTX 4000 cards are being dispatched? Ordered a 4080 yesterday, but haven't ordered from OCUK since 2019, forgetting it is the run-up to Christmas and there is a slight headache when ordering anything to Northern Ireland.
 
d3ck8rd said:
How quickly are you guys finding that RTX 4000 cards are being dispatched? Ordered a 4080 yesterday, but haven't ordered from OCUK since 2019, forgetting it is the run-up to Christmas and there is a slight headache when ordering anything to Northern Ireland.
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Which card did you order, I shall check stock.
 
Thinking about it, i think the FE 4080 is still in stock too. Cant link it due to rules, have to use your own resources.
 
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