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NVIDIA 4000 Series

fenchu said:
believe der8auer also highlighted same on YouTube review.

https://der8auer.com/​

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Thanks, I'd seen that before I bought the card and having played with it there's definitely less flow down that side of the block. I debubbled it earlier by spinning the case through 360 like the world's biggest ball bearing puzzle.
Hopefully that's got rid of it, It's a big heavy box and I'm fat and old.
 
LtMatt said:
Three reasons:

1) The FE cooler is inferior to the Palit GameRock which I am currently using.
2) I am using a Galax 660W BIOS on the GameRock which is enough power. I hit 650W playing Dying Light 2.
3) The GameRock is a really easy to dismantle and change the thermal paste.

Not bad for an apparently 'terrible PCB', Port Royal score.
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I missed this post but yeah Buildzoids take that the 4090 GameRock is a terrible PCB is just way off, So far I can hit 3GHz stable on the core and an extra 1200 on the memory, It backs off to 2990'ish once temps set in but a "terrible PCB" wouldn't allow this type of operation.
 
LtMatt said:
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Ok fine, fine. I need to decide between the Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 and the Palit 4090 as I just say the Gigabyte had a small reduction in price and has a 4 year warranty, 600w capability and better VRM phase.

EDIT - Ahh Palits warranty is 3 years and not 2 years... that's not so bad.

EDIT EDIT - I read that Palit recommend a 1200w PSU and can refuse RMA's if a 1200w PSU wasn't used... scummy if true.
 
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Richdog said:
Ok fine, fine. I need to decide between the Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 and the Palit 4090 as I just say the Gigabyte had a small reduction in price and has a 4 year warranty, 600w capability and better VRM phase.

EDIT - Ahh Palits warranty is 3 years and not 2 years... that's not so bad.
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There is zero difference between the max amount of wattage the varying 4090's can pull aside from heating up your case a bit more, Get the GameRock... one of us... one of us... one of us... :D
 
newuser said:
I went with an AIB card with a pre installed block, seeing similar temps to you.
My plan was to get an AIB air cooled card and see how I got on with it for noise and then put a block on if need be. The pre blocked card came up somewhere at an ok price so I went with the easy option. Quicker to stick it in the loop than strip stuff out to make room for an air cooled card.
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VincentHanna said:
Nope



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No bit I cant mount my 4090 on my riser cable 2 slot (old) 3 slot now won't fit .
 
Dicehunter said:
There is zero difference between the max amount of wattage the varying 4090's can pull aside from heating up your case a bit more, Get the GameRock... one of us... one of us... one of us... :D
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Hah ok! I also read that I read that Palit recommend a 1200w PSU and people speculated that they can refuse RMA's if a 1200w PSU wasn't used... I guess that would be an extreme example but still scummy if there is even a possibility of it.
 
Richdog said:
Hah ok! I also read that I read that Palit recommend a 1200w PSU and people speculated that they can refuse RMA's if a 1200w PSU wasn't used... I guess that would be an extreme example but still scummy if there is even a possibility of it.
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Palit suggest a 1000w PSU on their 4090 GameRock OC product page, It was 1200w but I'm guessing they saw that was slightly overkill and lowered it... also there would be no way of them telling what wattage your PSU is aside from coming round to your home and inspecting your rig.

Straight from the 4090 GameRock OC product page -

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4070ti is $799 MSRP, launches 5 January

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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti officially costs $799, launches January 5th - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA lowers the price of AD104-400 desktop GPU The RTX 4070 Ti, a rebranded RTX 4080 12GB will launch at $799. We now have a confirmation on GeForce RTX 4070 Ti price, the card will be $400 cheaper than RTX 4080. According to the official slide from tomorrow’s presentation, the RTX 4070 Ti is...
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Dicehunter said:
There is zero difference between the max amount of wattage the varying 4090's can pull aside from heating up your case a bit more, Get the GameRock... one of us... one of us... one of us... :D
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I just found a very interesting article directly comparing power requirements and consistency between the ASUS RSTRIX and the Palit Gamerock... https://hwbusters.com/gpu/power-ana...090-versus-the-most-affordable-asus-vs-palit/

In the worst-case scenario, OC speeds, the maximum GPU peak power for the Asus Rog Strix is at 676.26W, which is higher than Palit’s corresponding reading (638.24W). Still, we should consider the higher GPU overclock speeds that the Rog Strix achieved (2903.52MHz average speed vs. 2940.21 MHz). Nevertheless, the inferior VRMs of the Palit card, compared to the ones that the Asus card uses, don’t seem to be a problem for power spikes. This makes me wonder if we really need such powerful VRMs even on the RTX 4090 implementations. Unless you use liquid nitrogen to achieve your overclocks along with a 2KW power supply for the GPU alone, most likely not.
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Seems like the impact of VRM's on 4090's may indeed be overblown as long as the cards are built to Nvidia base spec.
 
Richdog said:
I just found a very interesting article directly comparing power requirements and consistency between the ASUS RSTRIX and the Palit Gamerock... https://hwbusters.com/gpu/power-ana...090-versus-the-most-affordable-asus-vs-palit/


Seems like the impact of VRM's on 4090's may indeed be overblown as long as the cards are built to Nvidia base spec.
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Yeah that's not new, all high end GPUs for the last few years have had overbuilt VRMs because people are willing to pay for it

The higher end pcb components don't really matter for out of box performance; you are correct they only matter for extreme liquid nitrogen overclocking
 
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Richdog said:
I just found a very interesting article directly comparing power requirements and consistency between the ASUS RSTRIX and the Palit Gamerock... https://hwbusters.com/gpu/power-ana...090-versus-the-most-affordable-asus-vs-palit/


Seems like the impact of VRM's on 4090's may indeed be overblown as long as the cards are built to Nvidia base spec.
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Yeah as long as the card is built to Nvidia's spec it's fine, Asus and others like to tack unnecessary stuff on that just raises pricing.
 
4070ti partner only card so that $799 is pipe dream, only on launch for the 10 cards retailers get then the AIB replace those models with ones they can actually make money on for $50-$100+ more S.O.P
 
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So a 4070ti will be around 15% more performance for 15% more money or $100 more than an almost 2 and a half year old 3080, a farcry from what the 4090 got you for $100 over a 3090.
 
von Humboldt said:
Just curious as an outside observer... did any of you that bought a 4000 series card have to change case to accommodate it, or were you good to go?
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I was housing my PC in an ITX sized case so I did have to upgrade the size for the 4090 Suprim X, it was just going to be too big. If I had gotten my hands on an FE at the time I likely wouldn't have changed immediately but to be honest I'm glad I did.

I find my PC generally cooler and quieter now than I did before.
 
Joxeon said:
So a 4070ti will be around 15% more performance for 15% more money or $100 more than an almost 2 and a half year old 3080, a farcry from what the 4090 got you for $100 over a 3090.
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Yeah the 4090's performance is amazing and the MSRP while still nuts isn't too bad when compared to last gens 3090 and is somewhat understandable considering silicon wafers are now a hell of a lot more expensive, The 4080 and 4070 Ti though are way too high even when factoring in increased wafer costs.
 
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Joxeon said:
So a 4070ti will be around 15% more performance for 15% more money or $100 more than an almost 2 and a half year old 3080, a farcry from what the 4090 got you for $100 over a 3090.
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3090 and 4090 launch prices were £300 difference, not £100, but even so…
 
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