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If I'm not using DLSS it's going to be well under 60 in busy areas which is the point of my reply to lovelyhead saying "anyone who buys a 4090 purely for gaming has lost their mind".

Will be interesting to see how the new updates/improvements to dlss improve IQ even further in likes of CP 2077, gamers nexus, TPU, DF and pretty much every other site stated that they found dlss on launch for CP 2077 as good as native and in a few areas as per their words "better than native" and that was before using the newer improved 2.5+ versions of dlss :)

Not to mention, dlss and FG is definitely going to be needed for the new "overdrive" mode, of course, option is always there to play a worse looking game by turning off RT and run native for those people... ;)
 
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I could show you my..

No Matthew! :p

The 3090 ran many games without DLSS around that fps on my 4k display. If the game had some proper work it would run much better, I feel they have moved on (wont be getting the attention it needs) so not really the hardware its just an easy pick off the library to benchmark lazily tool these days for the influencers.
 
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I could show you my GameRock running 4K native at 60-70 FPS if you’d like, no blur from DLSS either. :)

I've seen my 4090 GameRock do way over 60FPS at 4K in many games with no DLSS but this was in a busy area in Cyberpunk at max settings with a fair few mods, Texture mods for roads/buildings/weapons, Increased pedestrians, Increased traffic, Increased draw distance etc....

Will be interesting to see how the new updates/improvements to dlss improve IQ even further in likes of CP 2077, gamers nexus, TPU, DF and pretty much every other site stated that they found dlss on launch for CP 2077 as good as native and in a few areas as per their words "better than native" and that was before using the newer improved 2.5+ versions of dlss
:)


Not to mention, dlss and FG is definitely going to be needed for the new "overdrive" mode, of course, option is always there to play a worse looking game by turning off RT and run native for those people...
;)

Quite looking forward to testing FG and the new path traced reflections in CP2077, Shame there's still no ETA though.
 
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People need to stop obsessing about other peoples purchasing decisions. £1200/£1600 to one person is not the same to others… (for some it’s a drop in the bucket, for others it’s A LOT but gaming is their passion, and others don’t have the money). Being able to/not afford one doesn’t define you or your personality…

There is a lot of justification/fomo/remorse/ mixed in with equal parts genuine interest/curiosity/advice.

No one cares about your financial advice or thoughts on how poorly someone’s decisions were.

Reading through this thread is hilarious the different swings on the above it goes through!
 
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People need to stop obsessing about other peoples purchasing decisions. £1200/£1600 to one person is not the same to others…
I didn't see anyone "obsessing" in this thread. All I see are some very valid points being raised about getting a great gaming experience on other vastly cheaper platforms. I don't think anyone cares whatsoever about what someone else spends their money on.
 
I didn't see anyone "obsessing" in this thread. All I see are some very valid points being raised about getting a great gaming experience on other vastly cheaper platforms. I don't think anyone cares whatsoever about what someone else spends their money on.
it wasn’t pointed you in particular, I’ve seen many come in here and label people idiots/nvidia schills /amd schills etc for buying something that is expensive…
 
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If I'm not using DLSS it's going to be well under 60 in busy areas which is the point of my reply to lovelyhead saying "anyone who buys a 4090 purely for gaming has lost their mind".
Nobody's lost their mind purchasing anything, they purchase because they can.

However, DLSS on Vs off is clear as night and day on a SB9565 Oled, DLSS/FSR is noticeably different.

Was only pointing out the relevance that running DLSS you are not maxing out said game.

Benefits off DLSS as good as it is, FSR has been documented outputing better than DLSS in specific circumstances, but that doesn't make it better than DLSS.
 
I didn't see anyone "obsessing" in this thread. All I see are some very valid points being raised about getting a great gaming experience on other vastly cheaper platforms. I don't think anyone cares whatsoever about what someone else spends their money on.
it wasn’t pointed you in particular, I’ve seen many come in here and label people idiots/nvidia schills /amd schills etc for buying something that is expensive…

Just ignore or mute people that make no sense . A lot of people on here also like to tease each other as we have been here a long time and get the jokes in jest. So not all is as it may seem too ;) .
 
I’m going to be testing the two systems I have and which is a better fit for the 4080 I have. Purely for gaming at 1440p maybe 4k once I decide on a new oled.

Intel i5-12400 (upgrade to what 13600?)

AMD 5800x (upgrade to 5800x3d?)


Annoyingly the 4080 only fits in one of my cases so I don’t want to keep shifting things around constantly. (Meshify c and a 400d).

It’s in the Intel system at the moment with 32gb 3200 ram on z690 Nzxt n5 board and things are performing very we ll overall. I want to try this weekend putting x570 tomahawk into 400d with 4080 and my 5800x and compare. I am assuming it will perform slightly better?

But to ensure I maximise 4080s power I don’t know if at 1440p I’m choking it slightly with my cpus and if the 5800x3d or intel equivalent would help? Downside of z690 I have is that it is also not ddr5 soo in reality either board would be somewhat end of life.. ddr4 totally fine atm as I’m basically gaming only.
 
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Nobody's lost their mind purchasing anything, they purchase because they can.

However, DLSS on Vs off is clear as night and day on a SB9565 Oled, DLSS/FSR is noticeably different.

Was only pointing out the relevance that running DLSS you are not maxing out said game.

Benefits off DLSS as good as it is, FSR has been documented outputing better than DLSS in specific circumstances, but that doesn't make it better than DLSS.

The point wasn't picture quality between upscaling techniques or not using any at all, The point was even with a 4090 in Cyberpunk with maximum settings while using DLSS set to Quality I'm still "only" getting 75FPS in busy areas, If I were to get a 4070 Ti or even 4080 it would be a fair chunk lower in those scenarios, With a 4090 I can at least have smoother perf.
 
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I can't wait until people shut up about cyberpunk. For most people it seems like a game they got bored of a year ago but use as a tool like 3dmark.

One average game shouldn't be the sole reason to blow a grand.

You will be scared what I have blown over the decades on flight simulator. One game can make people spend a lot of money on them. Just have to check the sim type users on many forums and the setups they have.
 
You will be scared what I have blown over the decades on flight simulator. One game can make people spend a lot of money on them. Just have to check the sim type users on many forums and the setups they have.
That's a game I can understand people getting caught up in, with sim hardware etc. Cyberpunk I just don't see the same way.
 
I can't wait until people shut up about cyberpunk. For most people it seems like a game they got bored of a year ago but use as a tool like 3dmark.

One average game shouldn't be the sole reason to blow a grand.

I bought the card as I wanted amazing performance, I got a bonus at work so I thought why not.

Not that I would but I could withdraw £2000 and use it as toilet paper if I want, It's not up to anyone else what I do with my own money, Not directed at you but I and anyone else who buys expensive stuff don't not need to give a reason to anyone.

As for Cyberpunk I quite like it and the varied use of RT makes it useful for measuring performance.
 
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I bought the card as I wanted amazing performance, I got a bonus at work so I thought why not, As for Cyberpunk I quite like it and the varied use of RT makes it useful for measuring performance.
Oh the 4090 is the standout card this generation by far. I can see its appeal but perspectives have been skewed. Look at benchmarks on games other than Cyberpunk and you will see that 3080 - 3090tis have been capable of generating framerates well above 60fps.

I said it earlier somewhere. It's like one minute you're getting 200fps, next thing youre on 300fps and telling yourself it was worth every penny.

It's just all gotten a bit daft.
 
I bought the card as I wanted amazing performance, I got a bonus at work so I thought why not, As for Cyberpunk I quite like it and the varied use of RT makes it useful for measuring performance.

It really is sad that people are having to justify their purchases here.

Everyone has different reasons for wanting/needing to buy new hardware, the reason why shouldn't be bought into question.

Its like asking a car enthusiast "Do you really need to buy that Audi RS3? - a fiesta will do the same job".

Pathetic really.
 
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