NVIDIA 4000 Series

[Gerard]

Yes, until now I believed it was only AIB cards that had exhibited this issue and from that I inferred it would be those where the "chassis" of the card isn't properly attached to the rear bracket allowing a large degree of flex/sag.

It was only that someone earlier commented 4090FE cards were also cracking which surprised me and started me wondering how and why.

Incidentally, in that northridgefix video, the number of Asus cards was shocking.

There's apparently been a couple of fe cards it's happened to. But I think third party cards are more vulnerable. The FE card is basically a metal box with a very small pcb inside, most of the third party cards are long pcbs with a heavy heatsink hanging from them. They're going to be more prone to flexing the board a lot and potentially cracking.

 

[throwaway4372]

Seems like they need to bin off the pcie slot and build some other kind of socket. It's obvs possible because people hang chonky cpu coolers off the mobo all the time.

 

[Gerard]

Seems like they need to bin off the pcie slot and build some other kind of socket. It's obvs possible because people hang chonky cpu coolers off the mobo all the time.

Plus the retention lever is badly dated, it's hard to get access to it now with how big cards can be. Vertically mounted cards it can be a nightmare.

 

[Rroff]

Plus the retention lever is badly dated, it's hard to get access to it now with how big cards can be. Vertically mounted cards it can be a nightmare.

Some of the higher end motherboards have a button to release it clear of the GPU, it is definitely something which has long not been fit for purpose.

 

[subbytna]

Is the 4070 Ti Super next to launch?

 

[ninja2000]

Is the 4070 Ti Super next to launch?

yes, its out on the 24th

 

[Vertigo]

yes, its out on the 24th

MSRP reviews on 23rd, if there is such a thing!

 

[ninja2000]

MSRP reviews on 23rd, if there is such a thing!

Good point, was just thinking the date they are available to buy! Looking forward to getting a tiny inno3d 4070ti super to cram in my tiny ITX case

 

[BananaDunka]

So this just turned up:

Hope you use the sag bracket/stand

 

[ninja2000]

Hope you use the sag bracket/stand

haha, I wish I could justify buying myself a 4090 but that price tag! I may just be able to stretch to a 4080 super if they sell for under 1k

 

[q974739]

I have a 4080, but only 1080p / display, so I either downsample from 4k (not sure if there is performance loss or not vs. regular 4k performance) or do a 3x1080p in Surround.

For the 4k, DLSS Performance is 52FPS without FG and 71FPS with. Ultra Performance is 78fps without FG or 99FPS with. Something like a 4090 should give a 4k@60 (in Performance), without FG or perhaps, a reworked engine more optimized for PT to increase the performance as well - like 4A did with Metro.

The rest of the cards should do well for lower res, perhaps not the 4050, but that is to be expected - maybe just regular RT.

BTW, 4k raster native is only 33fps - again, not sure if there is some sort of bottleneck. So yeah, good luck to "purists" aka raster and native only players.

Yeah, I'm sticking with PT only games being another 5+ years, short of a massive technological change. PT only modes, sure. But no game (outside of tech demos) being RT/PT only.

Because between them, the 4080+4090 only make ~1.5% on the steam survey... and I'm not convinced even they would make as well as you think.

 

[FoxEye]

Zuck announced Meta is buying 350k H100 Nvidia GPUs for its AI

Zuck is trying to make Jensen richer, think of all the leather jackets he can buy!

350,000 GPUs * $30k each. Though this order size they probably get a discount, maybe $20k each? Who knows, it's Nvidia maybe it's full price. Anyway that's up to $10 billion in revenue for Jensen, from a single customer

And this one order will generate more profit for Nvidia than they make in an entire year selling gaming GPUs to us peasants

All that so his Metaverse avatar can have legs..

 

[Grim5]

Hope you use the sag bracket/stand

Does it need it? AIO GPUs are usually light and small and don't need brackets or stands

 

[Goody_GTI]

Zuck announced Meta is buying 350k H100 Nvidia GPUs for its AI

Zuck is trying to make Jensen richer, think of all the leather jackets he can buy!

350,000 GPUs * $30k each. Though this order size they probably get a discount, maybe $20k each? Who knows, it's Nvidia maybe it's full price. Anyway that's up to $10 billion in revenue for Jensen, from a single customer

And this one order will generate more profit for Nvidia than they make in an entire year selling gaming GPUs to us peasants

Wowsers that’s some deal, just goes to show why Nvidia are so focused on AI

 

[Neil79]

Was thinking of getting a 4080 super.......

Just had to replace the calipers and a new battery for the car, so it's looking like it's going to be a 4070 ti super at this rate

 

[JediFragger]

Just had to replace the calipers and a new battery for the car, so it's looking like it's going to be a 4070 ti super at this rate

Tbf it'll only be 10/15% slower than the normal 4080 anyhow, still pretty good.

 

[RSR]

Does it need it? AIO GPUs are usually light and small and don't need brackets or stands

As it comes boxed, it weighs in at 6.5 kg. It's not a light card at all, that said it won't need a stand as it's going in my bench desktop.

 

[Grim5]

There is no way the GPU itself weighs 6.5kg

 

[BananaDunka]

Super sales so far not so Super...

“Dude, 4070 Super sales are a DISASTER,” said one board partner, adding that “frankly we are getting fed up with being told to push models over MSRP while Nvidia gets to sell Founders Editions from their website.” Several retailers are also quoted, with one anonymous large retailer saying that sales were lower than those of the original, and obscenely overpriced, GeForce RTX 4080, and that it was only the MSRP models that were selling.

Another retailer said that not a single person came into the store or called about the RTX 4070 Super on launch day, while another said it had “actually rejected an offer to receive ~200 4070 Supers from an AIB this week.” The reason given shows a recurring theme between the responses, which is that no one is interested in paying for souped-up, overclocked cards with loads of RGB lighting in this price range. “We had a feeling it would be nearly impossible to get gamers in 2024 to buy a 12GB GPU above $600,” says the retailer.

Even scalpers are regretting charging their bots into online stores to inhale as many RTX 4070 Super cards as possible. “It was really easy for us to buy 4070 Supers today on BestBuy.com & Nvidia’s website,” says a representative of a scalper collective, but adds that “we’ll be canceling most of our orders after seeing the bad sales…expect more Founders to pop up soon!”

Nvidia RTX 4070 Super sales are so bad even scalpers don’t want it

One graphics card maker calls sales of new Nvidia GPU a "disaster", while retailers turn down stock of overclocked graphics cards.

www.pcgamesn.com

 

[RSR]

There is no way the GPU itself weighs 6.5kg

I did say that's as it comes boxed, I'll pop the GPU on a scale in a bit.