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NVIDIA 5000 SERIES - ***NO COMPETITOR HINTING***

Sedgey123 said:
It's the same as 3000 owners saying they are going to get a great generational uplift as they are coming from 2 generations down now.. when they could have had basically the same performance for the last 2 years (excluding the 5090). This is why the 4000 owners are annoyed, although we all like having the best and i feel smug owning a 4090 and its going to be probably the 2nd best card for the next 2 years so 4 years in total, from a collective consumer point of view i would actually like it if this geneation was a great lift on all 50 series cards.. it just makes the next generation even more exciting and something to look forward too.
Now we are going to go into the 6000 series being extremely warey and potentially again full of dissapointment.
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With most 40 series owners holding on to their cards (rightly so), there will be a flood of 2nd hand 40 series cards near 60 series launch more than any other time I’d imagine. Good for the lower end.
 
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caff said:
I'd like to know what fellow 3090 users thinking... Worth an upgrade to a 5090, or waiting it out for something else?
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Everyone different. But for me;
I don't game as often as I used to due to little man in my life, so few hours late at night if not working.
I spent around £4k in Covid building a AM4 Build with 5900X and 3090 Suprim X

Even though I buzz for the latest tech fix, I feel that the £2k to spend on a 5090 could then be bottle necked with the rest of my system. Plus no games are unplayable or demand the massive uploft, even if it's double fps for me.

The sensible part tells me to put the £2k to one side (Possibly S&P 500 or Tech Shares)
That will pay for Next build of CPU, Motherboard, Ram. Then go for the 6090 for a full new build in a few more years.
This should align with more mature software and A.I. to develop more and give me an overall banging system in a few more years.
Whilst most games I play run fine at max settings, there's not enough games I'm intrested in that requires the new build now.

Everyone's story is different.
In Greatest Showman Voice "This is me!"
 
markymoo said:
Everyone different. But for me;
I don't game as often as I used to due to little man in my life, so few hours late at night if not working.
I spent around £4k in Covid building a AM4 Build with 5900X and 3090 Suprim X

Even though I buzz for the latest tech fix, I feel that the £2k to spend on a 5090 could then be bottle necked with the rest of my system. Plus no games are unplayable or demand the massive uploft, even if it's double fps for me.

The sensible part tells me to put the £2k to one side (Possibly S&P 500 or Tech Shares)
That will pay for Next build of CPU, Motherboard, Ram. Then go for the 6090 for a full new build in a few more years.
This should align with more mature software and A.I. to develop more and give me an overall banging system in a few more years.
Whilst most games I play run fine at max settings, there's not enough games I'm intrested in that requires the new build now.

Everyone's story is different.
In Greatest Showman Voice "This is me!"
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Yeah you’d need to upgrade everything to run 5090 as your cpu will be a big bottleneck. Makes sense to save and start building a system close to 60 series launch. I’ve slowly been building for this one. New monitor, 9800x3d PCIE gen 5 motherboard even though it doesn’t make any difference.
 
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markymoo said:
Everyone different. But for me;
I don't game as often as I used to due to little man in my life, so few hours late at night if not working.
I spent around £4k in Covid building a AM4 Build with 5900X and 3090 Suprim X

Even though I buzz for the latest tech fix, I feel that the £2k to spend on a 5090 could then be bottle necked with the rest of my system. Plus no games are unplayable or demand the massive uploft, even if it's double fps for me.

The sensible part tells me to put the £2k to one side (Possibly S&P 500 or Tech Shares)
That will pay for Next build of CPU, Motherboard, Ram. Then go for the 6090 for a full new build in a few more years.
This should align with more mature software and A.I. to develop more and give me an overall banging system in a few more years.
Whilst most games I play run fine at max settings, there's not enough games I'm intrested in that requires the new build now.

Everyone's story is different.
In Greatest Showman Voice "This is me!"
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If you are going to get a 5090 then you really need a 7800X3D or a 9800X3D even at 4k to make full use of it.
 
mrk said:
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Their numbers make no sense, the 5080 there is getting the same avg fps as the 5090??? And the 4090 beats the 5090??? Their pros/cons says that the 4080 Super is the better value...
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Well these numbers do make sense IF the review was done with a weak CPU, such as a 5900x or something. Do we know what they used? Blackwell GPUs are more demanding on the CPU than Lovelace and you can lose a lot of fps if you don't have a good CPU

A 5900x is perfectly adequate for a RTX4090 at 4k, but stick a RTX5090 in there and all hell breaks lose
 
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Grim5 said:
Well these numbers do make sense IF the review was done with a weak CPU, such as a 5900x or something. Do we know what they used? Blackwell GPUs are more demanding on the CPU than Lovelace and you can lose a lot of fps if you don't have a good CPU
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But also got the 4080 Super way below other GPUs... something off.

EDIT: Clicking through a few results looks like someone was pretty lazy tagging which card was which and a fair few instances they've obviously got them mixed up.
 
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Grim5 said:
Well these numbers do make sense IF the review was done with a weak CPU, such as a 5900x or something. Do we know what they used? Blackwell GPUs are more demanding on the CPU than Lovelace and you can lose a lot of fps if you don't have a good CPU

A 5900x is perfectly adequate for a RTX4090 at 4k, but stick a RTX5090 in there and all hell breaks lose
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14900K was used....
 
RavenXXX2 said:
Basically the 5080 should be the 5070ti or 5070.

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I like how he said clearly what NVIDIA learned from 4080 12GB un-launching - instead of learning gamers don't want barely an upgrade for higher price, they learned how to do it again, but better, so there is no option of un-launching. As in, just don't launch the real 5080, launch 5070Ti as 5080 and count monies. :)
 
Tinek said:
I like how he said clearly what NVIDIA learned from 4080 12GB un-launching - instead of learning gamers don't want barely an upgrade for higher price, they learned how to do it again, but better, so there is no option of un-launching. As in, just don't launch the real 5080, launch 5070Ti as 5080 and count monies. :)
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Due to Blackwell being on the same node as ADA Nvidia needed to increase die sizes to get a decent uplift and they only chose to do that with the 5090 which is why every other card in the stack will be a disappointment now.
 
Joxeon said:
Due to Blackwell being on the same node as ADA Nvidia needed to increase die sizes to get a decent uplift and they only chose to do that with the 5090 which is why every other card in the stack will be a disappointment now.
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These details of what and how do not matter really. The only thing that matter is they did it again - they've tried with 4080 16GB and 12GB, learned why that didn't work, corrected it and did it again but this time masked it better. I do hope it won't work for them this time either and they'll finally get the message, otherwise they'll do it again with 6k series but even worse for us.
 
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