NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

[Absolutely Clueless]

All the performance of all of the cards will be in within a few % of one another (Likely <2-3%). The only thing you are getting different between them is aesthetics, temps and noise.

I know, but it's nice to see how they stack up and differ. It doesn't always carry across from one gen to the next that the same specific model is still a good card, e.g., 4090 TUF to 5090 TUF is a good card.

 

[Ascendancy]

Someone send a welfare check on @Ascendancy

Do we have Dragons?

No dragons sadly. I managed to get an FE though before preordering other cards was available.

Wasn't my first choice but cheap and I can always sell it and switch to something with more wings once stock stabilises in a few months.

Fingers crossed it doesn't squeal like a pig

 

[Nitefly]

Nearly 28,000 in timespy extreme, holy crap.

Edit: oh that’s just the GPU score, not the combined one… I was like, no way!!!

 

[Nitefly]

All the performance of all of the cards will be in within a few % of one another (Likely <2-3%). The only thing you are getting different between them is aesthetics, temps and noise.

I know, but it's nice to see how they stack up and differ. It doesn't always carry across from one gen to the next that the same specific model is still a good card, e.g., 4090 TUF to 5090 TUF is a good card.

The TechPowerUp comparison video is quite good at showing the differences on these things.

On the noise side of things, the Suprim in their quiet bios mode is just over 10db quieter than the FE, Astral and GameRock when at load. That’s half as loud. So IMO these things are important.

 

[Youngtimer]

Nice overclocking potential on theses 5080. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-5080-astral-oc/43.html

Gigabyte 450W Bios sounds interesting.

 

[AMDPower]

I briefly mentioned this in the Radeon 9070 thread, but I'll stick my neck out and say it here...

Given the poor reviews/reception, I can see the 5080 sales rate being pretty mediocre once stock stabilizes... IF AMD can deliver a compelling card that sits between the 5070 Ti and 5080 and squeezes them both.

In that scenario, I'd bet we'll see a 5080 Super with 24GB RAM and +20% more cores (i.e., heavily cut down GB202) at around $1,200 within 6-9 months.


[Edit] And the "so what" for me, is that I'd be interested in a 5080 series card, but no way is that going to be the current vanilla card at $1,000!

I totally agree and practically said a similar thing earlier on. If AMD release a card that can compete with 5080 but not beat and priced well enough to compensate for lack or fake frames and slightly slower Ray tracing, I can see many jumping ship form Nvidia antics.

 

[AMDPower]

Nice overclocking potential on theses 5080. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-5080-astral-oc/43.html

Gigabyte 450W Bios sounds interesting.

just read the comments in the vide on jays video, Nvidia is getting a lot of love

 

[Purgatory]

 

[Twinz]

My son got a 5080 FE for his SFF build. (His first PC gaming rig) I was surprised at first, but he reminded me that he has fought in the bot wars before. (Xbox and PS5 consoles were getting scalped too.)

It should fit nicely in the Fractal Ridge and the case should work well with the flow-through cooler.

 

[Twinz]

I briefly mentioned this in the Radeon 9070 thread, but I'll stick my neck out and say it here...

Given the poor reviews/reception, I can see the 5080 sales rate being pretty mediocre once stock stabilizes... IF AMD can deliver a compelling card that sits between the 5070 Ti and 5080 and squeezes them both.

In that scenario, I'd bet we'll see a 5080 Super with 24GB RAM and +20% more cores (i.e., heavily cut down GB202) at around $1,200 within 6-9 months.


[Edit] And the "so what" for me, is that I'd be interested in a 5080 series card, but no way is that going to be the current vanilla card at $1,000!

Because of the way Nvidia is trying to get consumers to think of their products as "investments", I expect a 20gb card, on a cut-down 5090 die, that trades blows with a 4090 for $1400-ish.
I think the slightly cut down bus can be covered with GDDR7 and then just keep enough of the 5090 cores to reach 4090 performance.

 

[GoRedwings19]

It was terrible today. Like we should have expected it seeming most of us have been here through most of the major launches but this time it felt actually worse than the 3xxx series launch and 4 series launch.

The moment it hit 2pm the site died on us completely. Just like the previous times.

But the actual time to update the actual prices when other retailers put theirs up slightly earlier was already a bad sign.

The site was down for I guess 20 mins maybe slightly longer. Now this is not ocuk fault the sheer amount of traffic must have been huge. But they could have learnt from the previous launches and put it on a more powerful server or whatever.

I am sure a few peeps have commented on this and this is what actually left bad taste in my mind for me and I can’t speak for anyone else. They jacked the prices up not by a small amount but by a huge amount. Like 150-200 more.

In the past I have always defended ocuk but this time I couldn’t. Knowing there was a limited amount of 5090’s then realising they were scalping/covering costs/ turning a profit call it what you will there was a mad rush to go to other retailers to get a better or at least a more reasonable price. Granted things already a high amount purchase for most and questionable at that as it not the performance uplift over the 4090 that people had hoped it to be. But even then for me it is unforgivable to do that to your members. No I am not entitled enough to think ocuk member should get a discount or even early access. Just give us a fair price. I mean they were simply amazing during the 9800x3d launch but then that good will has been unravelled by this 5xxx series launch.

I get it, it’s a business first and foremost but it still feels bad.

 

[Cooners]

It was terrible today. Like we should have expected it seeming most of us have been here through most of the major launches but this time it felt actually worse than the 3xxx series launch and 4 series launch.

The moment it hit 2pm the site died on us completely. Just like the previous times.

But the actual time to update the actual prices when other retailers put theirs up slightly earlier was already a bad sign.

The site was down for I guess 20 mins maybe slightly longer. Now this is not ocuk fault the sheer amount of traffic must have been huge. But they could have learnt from the previous launches and put it on a more powerful server or whatever.

I am sure a few peeps have commented on this and this is what actually left bad taste in my mind for me and I can’t speak for anyone else. They jacked the prices up not by a small amount but by a huge amount. Like 150-200 more.

In the past I have always defended ocuk but this time I couldn’t. Knowing there was a limited amount of 5090’s then realising they were scalping/covering costs/ turning a profit call it what you will there was a mad rush to go to other retailers to get a better or at least a more reasonable price. Granted things already a high amount purchase for most and questionable at that as it not the performance uplift over the 4090 that people had hoped it to be. But even then for me it is unforgivable to do that to your members. No I am not entitled enough to think ocuk member should get a discount or even early access. Just give us a fair price. I mean they were simply amazing during the 9800x3d launch but then that good will has been unravelled by this 5xxx series launch.

I get it, it’s a business first and foremost but it still feels bad.

I've got to admit I was shocked at OCUK's prices. I was sat here with multiple cards on here and other sites and the 5080 I initially wanted was £400 dearer here. It just felt wrong. The whole thing from AI companies draining the supply, to Nvidia causing mass FOMO, through a lot of retailers taking advanctage and then down to scalpers it just felt like everyone was just taking the pee.

 

[doodah]

Have OcUK explained the rather large discrepancy?

 

[GoRedwings19]

I've got to admit I was shocked at OCUK's prices. I was sat here with multiple cards on here and other sites and the 5080 I initially wanted was £400 dearer here. It just felt wrong. The whole thing from AI companies draining the supply, to Nvidia causing mass FOMO, through a lot of retailers taking advanctage and then down to scalpers it just felt like everyone was just taking the pee.

I always knew that OcUk might not be the cheapest around and didn't mind paying extra. I use the forums when I have the spare time and I converse on here with the other nerds. Had they posted prices up earlier rather than leave it to the very minute when it went live and no one could get on maybe that would have taken the sting out of it? I don't know.

What I do know that today didn't sit well with me. There are a lot of people here who are looking for an upgrade that don't necessarily need a 5090 for whatever reason and a 5080 is the next logical step given it the new gen and because there is no other manufacturer competition at least when you base it on what peoples needs/want from a next gen card. Now of course no one is forcing you buy to from OcUK But when most of the members here use the forums daily here to converse I expect there might be a certain loyalty bias to OcuK. Most people have been sitting on older gen cards and from what I read the 5080 would suffice their needs regardless on how it is viewed in general. Not everyone can afford to get the latest and greatest each generation release. I expect a lot to keep using it for 4-5 years+. But I felt that the members here were done dirty so to speak.

 

[Dave2150]

Have OcUK explained the rather large discrepancy?

Supercars are expensive!

 

[parisv]

Not sure why some go for the astral over the suprim / suprim liquid. They are cheaper and run cooler and quieter.

 

[Richdog]

Have OcUK explained the rather large discrepancy?

What do you want them to say? "We are a business looking to make as much money as possible"?

OCUK provide this awesome forum, but like any business they want to milk you for as much cash as possible.

 

[Richdog]

Not sure why some go for the astral over the suprim / suprim liquid. They are cheaper and run cooler and quieter.

If youre going air it just makes sense to get the cheapest 5090 possible. The 5090 Suprim is like £600 more than an MSI Trio and basically performs the same with a slightly better and quieter cooler.

 

[Muz333]

Have OcUK explained the rather large discrepancy?

They are always the same at launch usually quoting exchange rates or whatever. I admit I soured on their store after the 3000 launch and get my parts elsewhere now.

 

[parisv]

If youre going air it just makes sense to get the cheapest 5090 possible. The 5090 Suprim is like £600 more than an MSI Trio and basically performs the same with a slightly better and quieter cooler.

Gaming trio is 2499 vs suprim 2599 on sites I’ve seen. But yeah I get your point usually cheapest is the best way to go vs performance but at that price range I’d pay the extra 100 if spending that much already.