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NVIDIA 5000 SERIES

Matthew Hunt said:
I have a 4090 and will upgrade to a 5090 - But only if I can get a FE or card at MSRP.
I should get £1400 for my 4090 hopefully which means the upgrade is £600.

If however I can't get a card at MSRP then I simply won't upgrade as not going to pay over £2k for a GFX card.
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If I was sure I could achieve this then I'd do the same. My 4090 FE has treated me great for 2 years and even selling it for £1200 meaning the 5090 essentially costs £800 feels worth it for 2 years of assured great performance.

It was pretty easy to pick up a 4090 FE in Jan 2023 when I got mine so I'd expect at least around the spring of '25 it should be easy to get a 5090 FE.

Making me think this is when I'd get the best value for my 4090 pushes me toward it. I've also got a monitor that supports DP2.1 which the 4090 doesn't so it would be good to add it for that.

Waiting a generation worries me as well. Buying a 6090 in '27 would have been concerned that a PC built in 2023 would be bottlenecking the card...
 
The design of the 5090 gives me pause: I use a tower heatsink (Noctua DH-15) and I'm just wondering how that much that will block the vents of the 5090.
 
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block and/or heat soak, all that hot air will be going over the fins.

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It's just a little conspiracy theory of mine, but I feel like the massive gap between the 5090 and the 5080 isn't for potential supers or tis, but room for the 6000 series. It's an easy way for nvidia to tout gen-on-gen improvements if they give themselves space to slot the 6060-6070-6080 in there and claim victory while letting 5090 owners feel good with their purchase.
 
I can't justify it going from 4090 to 5090 this time. The 30 series got ray tracing working for games like cp2077, the 40 series introduced FG which got path tracing working. The 50 series is just a smallish raw performance increase and more FG options which can only be used on high refresh monitors

I'd need to buy a new 240hz monitor and probably a psu and potentially case as well to making it a huge investment

Outside of 2-3 games the FG part is pointless and 90% of games play fine on 4090 performance
 
DanF said:
I can't justify it going from 4090 to 5090 this time. The 30 series got ray tracing working for games like cp2077, the 40 series introduced FG which got path tracing working. The 50 series is just a smallish raw performance increase and more FG options which can only be used on high refresh monitors

I'd need to buy a new 240hz monitor and probably a psu and potentially case as well to making it a huge investment

Outside of 2-3 games the FG part is pointless and 90% of games play fine on 4090 performance
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That's a very good point. I'm in the same boat, I only have a 165hz monitor and I won't even see the benefit of those increased frames if I upgrade from my 4090. I already get near enough my monitors refresh rate in FPS for most games bar a few but mostly the 4090 still doesn't sweat at most games. I feel like the smarter move would be to sit this gen out and then possibly see what the 6000 series raw performance gains would be.
 
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I'd be potentially interested in the 5070Ti but I have to see how they actually fare and if they're available at MSRP. The real performance uplift is most likely around 15-20% and the rest is AI stuff. No way a 5070 is going to trade blows with a 4090 when it comes to raw power.

My 4070 is still performing admirably at 3440x1440 while being super-efficient so it's going to be hard to top considering the price I paid but we'll see. I guess it all boils down to how much I can recoup from selling it.
 
Remember the 40 and 30 and 20 series will all see a performance increase with the DLSS4 update, as well as image quality. So if you are happy with them now, it will be even better fairly soon. None of Nvidia's slides showed what current gen cards were like running DLSS4, and that's deliberate as it would shadow the new cards performance no doubt. Obviously this is mainly in relation to the 4080s and 4090s.
 
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Matthew Hunt said:
I have a 4090 and will upgrade to a 5090 - But only if I can get a FE or card at MSRP.
I should get £1400 for my 4090 hopefully which means the upgrade is £600.

If however I can't get a card at MSRP then I simply won't upgrade as not going to pay over £2k for a GFX card.
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No chance you'll get £1400 for your 4090
 
Amatsubu said:
I'd be potentially interested in the 5070Ti but I have to see how they actually fare and if they're available at MSRP. The real performance uplift is most likely around 15-20% and the rest is AI stuff. No way a 5070 is going to trade blows with a 4090 when it comes to raw power.

My 4070 is still performing admirably at 3440x1440 while being super-efficient so it's going to be hard to top considering the price I paid but we'll see. I guess it all boils down to how much I can recoup from selling it.
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I think its more like a 5-10% uplift in raster which is why the prices came in more favourable.
 
Matthew Hunt said:
I have a 4090 and will upgrade to a 5090 - But only if I can get a FE or card at MSRP.
I should get £1400 for my 4090 hopefully which means the upgrade is £600.

If however I can't get a card at MSRP then I simply won't upgrade as not going to pay over £2k for a GFX card.
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Normally I'd be the same and the FE would be the no-brainer choice.

The design is giving me pause however, both in terms of it's lacklustre appearance and potential noise & heat from a 2-slot design.
Combined with the big question marks over raw performance gains, I'll be waiting for actual reviews before making any decision on even whether to upgrade, let alone which card.
 
kieran_read said:
But what are you upgrading to?

You're spending money on hardware to upgrade what is mostly a software update with DLSS4 until we actually know the raster performance a 4000 series upgrade doesn't make much sense.

You talk about revolutionary "upgrades" on the surface yes it looks like amazing numbers, but in reality what's been announced is more of a software update than hardware.

Most negativity is from 4000 series owners, in general id say on the forums we've mostly come to accept that the days of generational upgrades are gone and now it's normally 2 ir 3 gens onwards.

Personally I love the 5000 announcement, but im still using a 1080ti so it makes sense.

I think you'd struggle to win with your position that this is a worthy upgrade for 4000 series owners on this forum, the only exception is for those who have managed to sell there cards for a great price that the cost to upgrade is negligible.
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But software still costs.... sometimes more than the hardware! My point being that it seems people are quick to moan and slate NVIDIA because they have unreasonable expectation of that their next gen release should be when in fact, its a perfectly reasonable business model to release incremental upgrades. Whether or not a person can self justify spending to the latest model is of course, a personal choice :)
 
yeah I think for people on 30 series and amd cards then it can be a good upgrade. Or maybe you're going from a 70 to 90 series. But for current 4080/4090 customers this is a pretty bleak upgrade cycle
 
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