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NVIDIA 5000 SERIES

Vertigo said:
Isn't it 2pm tomorrow for the 5080 FE reviews?

If they were underwhelmed by the 5090, the 5080 is going to be a total trainwreck.
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Nitefly said:
Pretty excited to see the 5080 reviews, I think we’re collectively expecting it to be an even more lukewarm reception than the 5090… slim chance of a surprise, considering Nvidia’s own performance charts.
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I'm looking forward to reading a few dozen pages of people moaning about the disappointment of the 5080 after work :cry:
If the 5090 was this bad... oh boy!
 
Grim5 said:
Finally someone has done cpu tests with the 5090 and the results validate me not getting this GPU unless I also get a new CPU

Video below but here is the summary, and all results are relative to the 9800X3D that all 5090 reviews were based on:

9800X3D: 100% (baseline performance)
7800x3D: up to 80%
5800x3D: up to 70%
5600x: up to 50%
3600x: up to 40%
1600x up to 30%


So what this mean in practice?

If you have a 7800X3D, your 5090 will run up to 20% slower than if you had a 9800x3d.

If you have a 5800x3d your 5090 runs 30% slower

If you have a 5600x, your 5090 runs 50% slower

If you have a 3600x, your 5090 will run 60% slower

And finally if you have a 1600x, the 5090 runs 70% slower


based on these, I'd suggest anyone who wants a 5090 shouldn't bother unless they have or plan to have a minimum of a 7800X3D


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This is not news and to be honest those numbers you are focusing on are taken most from one game using the now widely accepted pile of unoptimised crap that is UE5. It also doesn’t help he drops settings to high to reduce the GPU bottleneck. It’s funny how he settles on that one game to “prove” his point. You could easily pick plenty of games that conclude the opposite.

So yeah anyone buying a 5090 for their 5800X3D and lower CPU and playing at below 4K max is not really upgrading at all. A big caveat (and this video demonstrates it well) is that it depends on the game.

CPU limits and balanced PC setups have always been a thing. I tried to explain this to a guy who could not understand why his new 3080 was only a few percent faster than my 2080. I explained it was because he had an old Intel 4 core CPU compared to my 5900X.
 
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Raiden85 said:
Turd is an understatement if this is right, so it's about as good as a 4080 super, and takes more power to achieve it. No wonder Nvidia held this back until the final moment :cry:

Expecting Gamers Nexus to call this another waste of sand.
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Will be marginally better at 4K but still not great at all.
 
ICDP said:
I thought a 5080 would be faster than a 4090 very slightly but that was based on previous new gen history. Then Nvidia revealed the specifications and I realised they were giving us the lower tiers for 4080s prices.

The 5080 is a 5070Ti with a $200 price hike

The 5070Ti is really a 5070 with a $150 price hike.

The 5070 is a 5060Ti with a $150 price hike.

Yet we still have people praising Nvidia for “lowering prices”. It’s like watching an abuse victim say their abuser “loves them really”.
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The 40 series already took the 80 down to the 70 class, the 50 series builds on that and now we're down at the 60 class.
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Yeah, they have done this bait and switch for a few generations now. £1000 for what historically would have been a 60Ti card.

AMD are almost as bad, and I say “almost” loosely because if they had the market share they would be just as bad. Look at the Ryzen CPU prices once they gained dominance.
 
ICDP said:
Will be marginally better at 4K but still not great at all.
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That's astoundingly mediocre for a 2-year+ generational upgrade.

I'm not sure how it's going to do that much better at 4k, maybe 5-6% due to mem bandwidth.

4080 and 4080 Super owners rejoice. Those looking to "upgrade" just saved money.

9070xt may actually compete with this thing.
 
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ICDP said:
This makes the 4080 I paid £900 for two years ago seem like a bargain. I mean if you are on an older gen card the 5080 may still seem like a good upgrade. But if you can get a 4080 Super or even 4080 for a good price, it makes the 5080 look terrible.
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I think it’ll all depend if you like buying second hand or not. 4080s are still 1k or more new, so getting one cheaper will mean going second hand.

As I tend to buy a card to last me 3-5 years, I always go new. Bring on a 6900xt and wanting to try more RT, moving to a 5080 will be an uplift no matter what way you slice it. If they are similarly priced to a 4080s. Personally I’m not comfortable buying anything I can’t just replace second hand (so tend to put a couple of hundred as a limit) to save on faff should something go wrong, I just want to deal with a shop or manufacturer.

People already on a 4080 or more can shrug and enjoy their cards for another year.
 
montymint said:
I think it’ll all depend if you like buying second hand or not. 4080s are still 1k or more new, so getting one cheaper will mean going second hand.

As I tend to buy a card to last me 3-5 years, I always go new. Bring on a 6900xt and wanting to try more RT, moving to a 5080 will be an uplift no matter what way you slice it. If they are similarly priced to a 4080s. Personally I’m not comfortable buying anything I can’t just replace second hand (so tend to put a couple of hundred as a limit) to save on faff should something go wrong, I just want to deal with a shop or manufacturer.

People already on a 4080 or more can shrug and enjoy their cards for another year.
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I agree on current 4080s prices, but once reviews drop and 5080s start appearing for similar prices, you might see 4080s GPUs for sub £1000.

As you say they do still represent an uplift in performance for the same MSRP. Though with stock issues and price gouging, I expect the worse as far as pricing goes.

You will see Nvidia try to spin it as “high demand”.
 
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