You say sensible, I say its the same price as the over priced 7970 on launch which is why many people did not buy them.
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NVIDIA 780 Ti Announced (18/10/13)
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You say sensible, I say its the same price as the over priced 7970 on launch which is why many people did not buy them.
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I thought a lot of people brought them?
Soldato
290X review comments
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I think it's safe to say Nvidia's GTX 780ti is worth waiting for.
Some highlights
(Tom's)
(TTL OC3D)
(Tech power up)
I think it's safe to say Nvidia's GTX 780ti is worth waiting for.
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a lot did but not as many as would have for a little cheaper. Me included.
Many nvidia users would have snapped up a 7970 on launch if they were better priced at the time, thats not to say the 7970 was bad at all, AMD just followed what nvidia were doing and pricing a lot of people out of the market for high end cards. As i say, Me included, And not because of my lack of funds.
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Whoa!
Soldato
lol I don't believe for a second his neighbours complained about it. Unless they live in a flat with paper thin walls.
Considering the 290X appears to be able to match a Titan out of the box, if Nvidia want the single GPU crown back the 780Ti will have to beat the Titan and compete with a card that starts at £430, interesting times ahead.
You would be surprised, I live in an Edwardian house with thick walls and when I had a GTX670 FTW (680 cooler) I could hear it from the next room or the room below. Sound transference is dependent on frequency as well as volume and GPU blower fans are usually quite good at projecting their droning.
You would be surprised, I live in an Edwardian house with thick walls and when I had a GTX670 FTW (680 cooler) I could hear it from the next room or the room below. Sound transference is dependent on frequency as well as volume and GPU blower fans are usually quite good at projecting their droning.
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Caporegime
This, its way faster than a 780 and trades blows / just edges out the Titan, while AMD may not have conclusively won back the crown, Nvidia have lost it, The Titan being no faster looks ridicules at £800+, the 780 @ £500+ is far to expensive and is classed along the lines of the R9 290, which looks like it may also edge out the 780, which in turn needs to be priced around where the 770 is now. what Nvidia need to do is come up with a Titan Ultra full fat GK110 for £500, even that would only put it a few % ahead of the 290X.
I doubt these are prices Nvidia are very unwilling to go to, and they wont because they know they can always sell at a premium.
Caporegime
I feel pretty confident that Nvidia will have a card up their sleeve. I am taking nothing away from the 290X and truly believe at this price, it is a great card but Nvidia have always liked top dog spot....
If they released a full fat Titan, it would only perform about 5% faster than the Titan because it wouldn't be able to clock so high because of the heat. This also shows with the 780 Vs the Titan. The 780 can clock higher than a Titan and Classy 780's can hit 1400Mhz+ on air.
I am going to do a fanboy bit now as well.... For months and months, I heard that the 7970 was faster than the 680 because it overclocks much higher and the same with the 770. 50/50 in games but people posted that the 7970 was under clocked and would clock much higher and leave the 770 standing.
The 290X is a great card but can it beat an Overclocked 780/Titan? We will have to see
Soldato
I'm with you Greg. We've still no clue what the Ti will bring. Yes it's still GK110 but Nvidia has surprised us before, and with the competitions offering being so power hungry / no holds barred it's possible we might see something really aggressive.
I'm definitely waiting this one out.
I'm definitely waiting this one out.
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I feel pretty confident that Nvidia will have a card up their sleeve. I am taking nothing away from the 290X and truly believe at this price, it is a great card but Nvidia have always liked top dog spot....
If they released a full fat Titan, it would only perform about 5% faster than the Titan because it wouldn't be able to clock so high because of the heat. This also shows with the 780 Vs the Titan. The 780 can clock higher than a Titan and Classy 780's can hit 1400Mhz+ on air.
I am going to do a fanboy bit now as well.... For months and months, I heard that the 7970 was faster than the 680 because it overclocks much higher and the same with the 770. 50/50 in games but people posted that the 7970 was under clocked and would clock much higher and leave the 770 standing.
The 290X is a great card but can it beat an Overclocked 780/Titan? We will have to see
I think gibbo already gave us a score with the 1200 core r9 290x beating out a 1300mhz core gtx780. With better cooling and more volt's i think it's save to say it will beat out a gtx780. Titan on the other hand will be a better match. Nvidia will get the performance crown back as all they need to do is release a higher clocked part and call it a different name. Thing is will it be a more powerful core than titan or the r9 290x which i doubt it will. I reckon it would be called something different to gtx780ti if the specs were gonna be above the titan's.
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Another great post Gregster, and unfortunately putting me in a position where I realise I may have to bite the bullet with my original plan of 2x 780 Classy (now I have just upgraded to 1250w PSU) and pay a premium for it because the max time I can wait to get a card is next week. This makes me a bit sad as the 290x offers great performance/value but sadly I cannot put up with a loud card, even with headphones. That said it's £1064 v £840 so not really a big amount.
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I know that's why I said a bit. Then again, if I regret it I'll just sell them and get something else later on. I'm more than comfortable with losing money on PC parts. I've been without my PC for over a week though so it's getting a bit desperate.
Caporegime
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18551534
I don't quite read that the same as you but I am not arguing over tit for tat and wanting to see several cards benching against each other before I conclude one or the other is a winner.
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Mid november is the release isnt it ?
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http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18551534
I don't quite read that the same as you but I am not arguing over tit for tat and wanting to see several cards benching against each other before I conclude one or the other is a winner.
Hi there
Right guys, I got some voltage control, so I've done a benchmark run at 1200MHz core and 6400MHz memory, gives quite a substancial boost in performance over the 1060MHz core and 6000Mhz benchmarks I did this week.
Check them out here:-
Such a damn quick card, this now places it ahead of the 1310MHz GTX 780 I included in the review in all test.
This was what i was referring to as these results are not in the op.
Caporegime
@ TheRealdeal, I guess you have not looked at the benchmark threads then
R9 290X is a good card no doubt at a great price point that will force market change. And that's fantastic news for the end customer.
However (time to throw in my 2c), I'm going to try a car analogy. Like those american muscle cars that only care about one thing and one thing only, how fast it can go, to the detriment of everything else. The 290x maybe physically smaller die size than the titan/780 but it acts like its much larger. Overheating, and consequently loud as a result of the bizarre decision not to include 3rd party coolers from the outset. A bad move from AMD imo, it will force people who are still on the sidelines to wait for nVidia's response before deciding.
The Titan although larger die size, looks amazing, performs handsomely, runs cool and quiet and has the brand name. Like a Ferrari or porsche, it's expensive but the combination of all those things makes it worth it for some. In comparison the 290x is forcing every last bit of performance out of it's silicon, bursting at the seams no less. Overclocking headroom seems very limited without exotic cooling, and power usage is off the charts. Zero core does nothing really, I mean it only works when the monitor is off and you're not using your card, not many use cases there...
And then there's gsync, which gives you every frame you paid for literally. If a card is running non vsync in order to boost the framerate, and the 2nd and 3rd frames are combining in the frame buffer to produce tearing is that really a frame worth counting? Forgot about 4k, you can't even do a clean 60fps, its going to feel horrible without a steady frame rate.
Big winner today is the end user, so we have AMD to thank for that!
However (time to throw in my 2c), I'm going to try a car analogy. Like those american muscle cars that only care about one thing and one thing only, how fast it can go, to the detriment of everything else. The 290x maybe physically smaller die size than the titan/780 but it acts like its much larger. Overheating, and consequently loud as a result of the bizarre decision not to include 3rd party coolers from the outset. A bad move from AMD imo, it will force people who are still on the sidelines to wait for nVidia's response before deciding.
The Titan although larger die size, looks amazing, performs handsomely, runs cool and quiet and has the brand name. Like a Ferrari or porsche, it's expensive but the combination of all those things makes it worth it for some. In comparison the 290x is forcing every last bit of performance out of it's silicon, bursting at the seams no less. Overclocking headroom seems very limited without exotic cooling, and power usage is off the charts. Zero core does nothing really, I mean it only works when the monitor is off and you're not using your card, not many use cases there...
And then there's gsync, which gives you every frame you paid for literally. If a card is running non vsync in order to boost the framerate, and the 2nd and 3rd frames are combining in the frame buffer to produce tearing is that really a frame worth counting? Forgot about 4k, you can't even do a clean 60fps, its going to feel horrible without a steady frame rate.
Big winner today is the end user, so we have AMD to thank for that!