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Nvidia acknowledge Stutter problem!

Nuwidol said:
I did try the 300.83 drivers but they didn't really help tbh. I still had stuttering during games but I think they may of helped during video playback (XBMC). They also lacked SLi profiles for a couple of games (Alan Wake etc) so I was getting poor performance on some titles. My main game ATM is BF3 & they didn't make things any better there. I'm using the 301.34 now. They all gave me stutter so I thought I'd just stuck with these until a fix was available.
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Fair play and sorry to hear it didn't sort it. New drivers leaked now but I will wait for the NVIDIA site before I try them.
 
I like Tommy, don't get me wrong and we have had our fair share of discussions. If he had worded it like this...

There is a thread over at Nvidia forums about the 6 series 'stutter' problem.

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?s...ic=226227&st=0


The problem has been acknowledged by NVIDIA:

ManuelG(NVIDIA Technical Support), Post number #455:

'We are able to replicate issue. Only occurs on GTX 600 series. It is likely some how caused by polling code in our drivers since it occurs on a cycle and should be fixed in a future driver.'

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?s...&#entry1407148

Then I would have been very happy and only had praise for him.
 
It's a thread that is 30 pages long, I'd consider this to be a huge thread. Nvidia reply on page 23, 11th May, over a month after the original post was made suggesting there could be a problem.

Seems like a normal opening thread to me? If there was "typical Nvidia" or "haha at Nvidia" somewhere in there then i'd happily agree with you.

This isn't a dig btw, I just can't see what the OP did wrong apart from let people know about an issue.

I won't reply again as I don't want to derail the thread anymore than it has been, hope they do sort a fix asap as the 670 seems to be the logical upgrade for me!
 
JamesM said:
It's a thread that is 30 pages long, I'd consider this to be a huge thread. Nvidia reply on page 23, 11th May, over a month after the original post was made suggesting there could be a problem.

Seems like a normal opening thread to me? If there was "typical Nvidia" or "haha at Nvidia" somewhere in there then i'd happily agree with you.

This isn't a dig btw, I just can't see what the OP did wrong apart from let people know about an issue.

I won't reply again as I don't want to derail the thread anymore than it has been, hope they do sort a fix asap as the 670 seems to be the logical upgrade for me!
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It's all cool and we all have our opinions. I do hope the new drivers out have fixed the issue. 301.40 just released but not sure if on NVIDIA site yet.
 
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In defence of the OP, he probably said nvidia "eventually" responded, as they didn't respond till about page 23 of the thread. However as pointed out, at least they have responded.

Anyone without red or green glasses on can see both companies have had problems with the new technology in the new generation of cards, be it zero core or turbo boost/stutter. Neither drivers are perfect by any means.
 
psychodil said:
Neither drivers are perfect by any means.
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and I feel, never will be. Just one of those problems/niggles that will always be there what ever card you have.

Personally speaking though, I can't remember the last time something didn't work in games 'as it should' I am not saying this is the same for everyone, just saying for some it all works as planned.

With so many variants of compnents in PC's, this is to be expected.
 
I have had this problem since getting my 680's didn't have it with the 580's.

I can get rid of MOST of the stutters by limiting the frames to 60 in afterburner also some tweaks to BF3 but it is still there though.

We might have to wait though for another 6 weeks or so for a fix. bummer!
 
Did nvidia ever 100% fix that TLDR (not sure if that's the right acronym :p) problem with some of the 5xx series cards? I'm not sure they did. That's what would worry me the most about this stuttering thing, especially as this one is a bit of a show stopper IMO.
 
TDR issue is a complex one and not 100% an nVidia driver issue, its probably not fixed for everyone but probably fixed for some as the triggers for what causes it varies from system to system.

While not seen the stuttering issue myself on any setup, I'd rather nVidia didn't do an AMD and rush out a hotfix that then gets the problems reduced in priority and hence never properly fixed if the hotfix is just a bandaid rather than a solution.
 
It's good that Nvidia have admitted the issue, instead of trying to roll out a driver fix and sweep it under the carpet. Hopefully they can get it sorted as I suffered from very irritating stutter for nigh on 12 months with no fix so can appreciate what an annoyance it can be.
 
It's a GTX 6x0 series issue only that causes intermittent stuttering due to the driver polling used in the GPU Boost feature. What happens is that instead of a relatively undemanding game maintaining 60 fps with v-sync on, it will fluctuate between 58 and 60 fps or even drop to 55 fps then go back to 60 fps. When this happens it causes a minor stutter that some people notice more than others. These are games that run well above 60 fps with v-sync off by the way.

NVIDIA have acknowledged the problem and apparently found a fix for it but it'll be at least a month before we see a driver with this issue resolved. That means the GTX 680 will have been out almost three months by then, which will surely be frustrating/annoying for those people eagerly awaiting a fix for it.
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Odd because i've seen this issue on my GTX 560, it will go 59..60...59..60 and stutter when it does so.

As someone else confirmed.

Dont think its a 6x8 only issue... on my GTX570 I recently noticed that the fps graph in msi afterbuerner is constantly jumnping between 57ish to 62ish... its not stable and flat like it used to be in most games that can easily achieve 60fps.
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All, I have just had to delete a ridiculous amount of posts which added nothing to the thread other than to flame/bait/troll each other. Please keep the thread on topic. - w3bbo
 
Thanks for cleaning up the thread webbo, another one that's spiralled out of control.:(

In response to how I worded my op, I'm not an Nvidia/AMD rep, I don't need to butter it up and sugar coat it not to offend anyone, that's why they pay their PR guys handsomely, and I sure as hell could have been much more scathing but that wasn't my intention.

Banter is one thing, but the **** flung at me in this thread is getting to the point of being far too much hassle, just for being informative and trying to help fellow forum users.

Sometimes information like this can help folks not ripping their PC to bits to find a fault that's hard to find and not waste countless hours/£'s trying to rectify when in fact it's out of your hands and is a driver problem.


I really do not care for either of them, take it or leave it, simple as that, best bang for buck every time.


Nuwidol said:
I applaud Tommy for starting this thread.

I am a 680 user & I have massive stuttering problems with my set up. I did not know nvidia had identified the problem & were actively working on it. Now I do.

He's helped at least one person here so why has this thread turned into an AMD vs Nvidia thread?
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That was the point of the thread, thanks by the way Nuwidol.
 
Everyone I know who has a 680 has the problem. I can make it happen by playing counterstrike source with adaptvie sync on. It looks like everybody is lagging.
 
Rroff said:
TDR issue is a complex one and not 100% an nVidia driver issue, its probably not fixed for everyone but probably fixed for some as the triggers for what causes it varies from system to system.
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Either way, it's an Nvidia specific issue. People are getting it with 6xx series cards too it would seem. A m8 of mine put his 7970 back in and the TDRs went away.

That's what would worry me the most about this stuttering thing, if they don't find a 100% fix or if it turns out to be something that is inherent in the design. We already know that it's related to the dynamic clock feature.
 
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