I've been waiting to buy either a 3080 or 6800XT but with no stock in sight what is the point when they've already been out for 3-4 months, might just wait until stock shortages are fixed and get another generation. If it wasn't for the fact that we've seen a huge performance increase this generation I'd happily buy a used card.
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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards
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Soldato
Yeah I cant believe the old gens (and second hand) are going for such high prices, desperate times.
WTF now this is a shock!
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ultra 12 GB GDDR6 Graphics Card Leaks Out, Faster Than RTX 3060 Ti For $449 https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce...ics-card-449-usd-asus-tuf-gaming-oc-pictured/
Everyone expected the 3060 12GB to be a slower card than the Ti with more VRAM... and now they are releasing an "Ultra" that is faster than the Ti and has more VRAM than the 3080? If this is true then it's going to be performing on the 3070 level!
Maybe this is a sign that Nvidia are really re-working their lineup... The Super may now be called Ultra and we may now see them sooner than we thought. I have a feeling that if more news breaks about refresh models over the next week or two that I should cancel my RTX 3080 10GB order and just wait a little longer.
EDIT - Strangely the specs they list in the table in the article (CUDA cores and interface) are lower than the Ti, so either those specs are wrong of the author is wrong about the Ultra beating the Ti. I guess we will see over the next days.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ultra 12 GB GDDR6 Graphics Card Leaks Out, Faster Than RTX 3060 Ti For $449 https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce...ics-card-449-usd-asus-tuf-gaming-oc-pictured/
Everyone expected the 3060 12GB to be a slower card than the Ti with more VRAM... and now they are releasing an "Ultra" that is faster than the Ti and has more VRAM than the 3080? If this is true then it's going to be performing on the 3070 level!
Maybe this is a sign that Nvidia are really re-working their lineup... The Super may now be called Ultra and we may now see them sooner than we thought. I have a feeling that if more news breaks about refresh models over the next week or two that I should cancel my RTX 3080 10GB order and just wait a little longer.
EDIT - Strangely the specs they list in the table in the article (CUDA cores and interface) are lower than the Ti, so either those specs are wrong of the author is wrong about the Ultra beating the Ti. I guess we will see over the next days.
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Could had a few different types last night of the 3070 at least if their pricing wasn't taking the ****.
I might be tempted by a 3080 ti / Super / Ultra / whatever but I already have a 2080 Ti so anything below that level isn't worth considering. And I'm not paying for a 3090.
Really wish the 3070 would have had at least another 2GB of VRAM. I'm seeing 7.8GB of use in Division 2 and 7.0 in Cyberpunk and while nothing has been stuttering yet due to it, it is a sign of things to come. The actual raw performance has been fine though and I don't think a 3080 on a Ryzen 3600 with a 1440p monitor makes much sense unless RT is super duper life-changing important to you.
It's very possible, as Nvidia know full well that they screwed up with VRAM amounts and that the majority of the userbase are talking about it negatively.
The good thing is that if you pay close to MSRP for a 3080 10GB now then you'll likely be able to sell it for a similar price, or at least for not much loss, later down the line as stocks of new cards will still be poor.
What you are seeing is vram allocated not vram in use, there is a very big difference between the two.
For the most part a 3070 and certainly a 3080 will run out of chuff to deliver at an acceptable frame rate before vram becomes an issue in future titles.
Nah, they just got one-upped by AMD. This is competition at work.
The 3070 is more than capable of acceptable 4k gaming in many current and upcoming titles and 8GB is hardly a 'generous' amount considering it's been on cards for the last few years. 8GB can be considered the minimum amount of VRAM you would want on a good performing GPU nowadays and there is a very real chance someone may run into VRAM limitations in some situations and upcoming games on a 3070.
I never said it was generous, having more than enough doesn’t increase performance.
The likelihood of a 3070 being able to maintain 60fps at 4K using max/very high settings in future AAA games is unlikely, particularly when things like RT are enabled. It has the same power as a high end card released over 2 years ago which wasn’t that good at RT to begin with.
Games that are as well optimised as doom eternal are rare, most just aren’t. The requirements to game at 4K don’t sit still, it’s an ever moving goalpost and a 3070 will not keep up one way or another. True high end 4K pc gaming is an expensive hobby compared to 1440 and 1080.
I really wonder where this recent trend came from of people repeating common enthusiast knowledge like it's some new and undiscovered nugget of wisdom. Such pearls of wisdom as "Having more VRAM than you need doesn't improve performance" Really? No... you don't say! Goodness grief.
There are many YT videos showing the 3070 gaming at 4k Ultra settings at 60fps in various games, including new ones. There is no logical reason to think it can't manage it in many future upcoming games too, and Gsync and Freesync exist to smooth any lows out. Enabling RT is only possible in any practical sense combined with DLSS, we all know that.
You sound like you are just regurgitating things you read in other threads without putting any critical thought behind it. No-one is saying to shove on more VRAM than anyone needs, we are talking about putting on a comfortable amount to ensure an expensive GPU is not at risk of hitting a limit. 8GB is a real risk of that happening even on such a lowly and weak (lol) card as a 3070.
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Soldato
My vega had 8Gb VRAM, the 1060 before that 6Gb. and the 290x 4Gb.
It stands to reason that over time you tend to get more RAM unless we have reached a point where having more VRAM is pointless? It does depend on what resolution and frames your wanting to play at, however its the fault of the GPU companies as they even market their products as being "4k ready" or "bringing 4k gaming to the masses". Even if you dont, and go with 1440p you seem to be at the ceiling of what some games use so - like others have mentioned - being tight on the RAM for a card released at the end of 2020 is baffling, only to be confirmed with refreshes inbound that seem to be able to offer more...
Eh? There still clearing back orders of pretty much every SKU and doing a bit of substitution on 3070s for OC models where they can. Hardly sitting on a massive cache of 3080s are they?
You also can’t count any profit until the product has shipped. Having a metric ton of unfulfilled orders benefits literally no one.
What would actually help is if AIBs stopped launching new SKUs of the same card and EOL most of the ones they have to streamline the production, logistics and buying process. Two SKUs (e.g. one lower and one upper cost like TUF and STRIX) is more than enough to get product out there.