NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

[nomadd]

That has me worried about power consumption and requirements.

However it should mean the GPU is packing some serious performance.

Exactly. Definitely pulling more than 25 watts.

Question is, how much noise will it make. Hmm..

 

[KillBoY_UK]

Probably also supports the GA-102 die on 3080 info i.e. big die = roasty thermals = beefy heat sink

tldr: roast beef confirmed

2080ti had a HUGE die, but modest power and heat given its size. 5700xt has a small die but a lot hotter and more power hungry for its size and process

 

[melmac]

I'll tell you how.... the only way Nvidia maintains market share is if they give consumers the power of Ampere at previously unheard of price points and that is just not how they operate OR AMD completely ballz it up which ok you have Vega and Fury to poke fun at but its not looking like that this time around we don't know the details but the power and capability is quite clearly there.

What Nvidia are most likely to do is maintain the current price points and pull an Apple to lower production costs thus increase margin and maintain profit at the expense of the consumer all wrapped in fluffy words. They will however loose market share this time around I guarantee you that because they absolutely will not give consumer any more silicon per $ than they absolutely have too where as AMD have more room to manuvour even if they ultimately fall short of the ultimate perf part because it doesn't matter once you start hitting those high prices.

The only accurate statement in this post is

"We don't the know the details"

We don't know the price of the GPUs from either AMD or NVidia.
We don't know the performance of the GPUs from either AMD or Nvidia.
We don't know what the power consumption will be, we certainly can't base it off any information from the PS5.

And you certainly can't guarantee any of the things you said.

oh, Just Vega and Fury to poke fun at? What about Tahiti? Hawaii? Polaris? None of those launches went very well at all. AMD can't have another bad launch.

 

[JediFragger]

Yes they will know how it performs before we do, which is what I assume you meant.
But before AMD do, that would be a neat trick.

Was being facetious. We’d be beyond naive if we didn’t believe that nvidia partners with close access to AMD information didn’t pass it along.

 

[XeNoNF50]

Leaks is good - means it's close.

 

[melmac]

I read what he said and it was basically "If AMD isn't faster they will not gain any market share". It doesn't matter whether he said across all product lines or not, as the principle is the same and AMD will anyway be judged by their performance of initial releases of RDNA2, which will be at the high-end. They just have to be as competitive as possible and not lag behind too much, while being better value, and they will sell a bucketload.

I said they would need to be better. One aspect of that is performance. But all the other factors that come into GPUs as well, like noise levels, cooling, power consumption, drivers etc. They can't sacrifice any of those things to get better performance.

And I am talking about meaningful market share. They always rise a few % after launch of a new GPU but it's never enough to change anything.

Been competitive and good value has been what they have been doing for the past decade. Do you think that if they do the same with RDNA 2 that anything will change?

The launch of cards from both companies at roughly the same time of year will be interesting. This is the first time in a long time that we have such close release schedules and that AMD is going for the high end.

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

Leaks is good - means it's close.

Ye, can't wait for some benchmarks now.

Has it been confirmed how much vram these cards will have yet?

 

[varkanoid]

Yup, I really thought the original image made it look bogus, but this one, I agree it looks pretty real to me now.

Interesting concept and I'm sure it will work well..

Look at the size of the screwdriver to the size of the heatsink and compare these things are massive.

 

[opethdisciple]

People are so hypocritical, when there team has high power or poor PPW then they don't care and only care about performance and value. When its he other team is matters suddenly lol.

A 320w single GPU consumer card (if true) would be unrepresented but if the PPW is there and you can keep it cool and quiet...

But this is Nvidia not AMD. It's not because the GPU is inefficient. It'll be because it is packing some serious power. There is a difference.

Of course at this point in time we are only assuming. But it's a fairly sound assumption.

 

[varkanoid]

Also anyone noticed where the GPU is ? According to the heatsink its at the very end of the card not in the middle ? Suggests its either a very short PCB to the triangle or what others have speculised is its a Dual PCB/Hybrid type card with some kind of connection between the two whether it be PCB or other ? eg one end GPU one end power circuits.

 

[HRL]

Also anyone noticed where the GPU is ? According to the heatsink its at the very end of the card not in the middle ? Suggests its either a very short PCB to the triangle or what others have speculised is its a Dual PCB/Hybrid type card with some kind of connection between the two whether it be PCB or other ? eg one end GPU one end power circuits.

Wouldn't splitting the two make it easier to cool?

 

[ALXAndy]

Well one thing's for sure, nVidia will know how RDNA2 performs before AMD do so they'll be tweaking their lineup accordingly (as always).

Exactly. They pay for that, and know exactly what is going on at AMD.

 

[Sargatanas2511]

But this is Nvidia not AMD. It's not because the GPU is inefficient. It'll be because it is packing some serious power. There is a difference.

Of course at this point in time we are only assuming. But it's a fairly sound assumption.

You are saying no AMD cards are efficient? You sound like you know things everyone else doesn't.

The 5700XT is actually slightly more efficient at the same clock than the 2070 Super in performance and power is essentially the same.

 

[Twinz]

This heat sink has me worried about performance. It looks like a gimmick.

Last time, when Nvidia couldn't improve performance at the different price points, they gave us RTX...and a new price point.

This time, I'm worried they'll give us a gimmicky heat sink as a distraction.

 

[Richdog]

This heat sink has me worried about performance. It looks like a gimmick.

Last time, when Nvidia couldn't improve performance at the different price points, they gave us RTX...and a new price point.

This time, I'm worried they'll give us a gimmicky heat sink as a distraction.

How does it look like a gimmick? What about the cooler do you feel doesn't look practical or like it is designed to dissipate large amounts of heat? Why would they need to "distract" us with a heatsink?

Sounds like you're just making things up, because Nvidia are not going to spend a lot of money on R&D for a beastly cooler like that if it has no practical purpose.

 

[danlightbulb]

I quite like the look of it. Just want it to be quiet.

Leaks is good - means it's close.

Choo Choo!!!


We are only three weeks away from Q3 which is when all the good stuff is supposed to happen.

 

[TNA]

This heat sink has me worried about performance. It looks like a gimmick.

Last time, when Nvidia couldn't improve performance at the different price points, they gave us RTX...and a new price point.

This time, I'm worried they'll give us a gimmicky heat sink as a distraction.

What I recon is they have seen AMD's performance and have had to put more power into their cards than they usually would have at the high end, as a result they need beefier cooling. If AMD was not bringing it they would likely not pushed the 3080/ti/Titan so much.

 

[opethdisciple]

You are saying no AMD cards are efficient? You sound like you know things everyone else doesn't.

The 5700XT is actually slightly more efficient at the same clock than the 2070 Super in performance and power is essentially the same.

I didn't say anything about the current cards. I was referencing the Vegas which had a high power draw.

 

[HRL]

I quite like the look of it. Just want it to be quiet.

Although my Zotac triple fan 2080Ti is generally pretty quiet, a few games push it and the fans can become a little annoying, especially if playing at night and I don't want to turn the volume up. If they can deliver on performance AND keep the cards quiet, they'll be onto a winner for me. Perhaps the new heatsink can manage exactly that.

 

[EastCoastHandle]

The amount of heat that will be dumped into 'quiet' pc cases has the potential to overheat the card, cpu and motherboard. New, noiser, case fans would be required. I will be surprised if those who cant stand noise aren't the first to rma.

Furthermore it's not clear if that bottom fan is intake or exhaust. But if it's exhaust it would dump heat near the cpu hsf or water block, tubing.

Combine that by paying a premium of $150 just for hsf alone? I think RDNA 2 will do just fine regardless of where the performance lands. I just don't see any of those cards going below $1000.

AIBS won't be allowed to undercut Nvidia with traditional hsf. They will simply increase the asking price by $150. Simple maths is simple.