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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

varkanoid said:
Right we'll remember what you said when they turn out to be like a GTX 480! ;)
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Happy to be quoted and proven wrong, personally I can't see how nvidia would shoot themselves in the foot by adding a component which will make their top end graphics card at least £100 more expensive than their competitors. I am saving up again and will probably spend £500/£600 just like last time. If the equivalent nVidia is going to be £650 to AMDs £550 I know which one I will be buying.
 
JediFragger said:
YES!!!!!!!!!! Come on nVidia, you know you want to crack that £2k mark.... :p
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Already did that. Titan V and RTX Titan.

Coming back to prices. How many times have we been told that new NAND is much cheaper to produce? and how many times have SSD prices immediately dropped because of it? none. Just because these new cores may be cheaper for Nvidia to make that doesn't mean they will sell them cheaper.

The original Titan was £999. The Black was £699 or £799 (because it was just a nail for the 29x coffin). Maxwell Titan was £1000 with no DP, Titan XP was £1300 and Titan RTX was £2300 was it? or £2400? something like that.

Now I am sure that some of those were far cheaper to make. Mostly because in the case of the Titan it was literally just a 6gb 780. Didn't stop them though did it? same goes for the Maxwell one and all of the others.
 
Sargatanas2511 said:
You are saying no AMD cards are efficient? You sound like you know things everyone else doesn't.

The 5700XT is actually slightly more efficient at the same clock than the 2070 Super in performance and power is essentially the same.
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With a node advantage and a smaller die. 5700xt has a similar PPW to the old 16nm 1080ti
 
https://www.techpowerup.com/268332/...sink-pictured-rumors-of-airflow-magic-quashed

So it looks like the nvidia cooler might not be as over the top as expected, and the $150 rumours seem to be bs going by these pics.

Grim5 said:
It's certainly a revolutionary designed cooler matched with a revolutionary PCB no doubt
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Not really. According to that article its essentially what sapphire have been doing but with another fan slapped on. And pcb cutouts have been done as far back as the gtx 295.
 
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ALXAndy said:
If they powder coated alu then they are noobs. It would totally kill all of the heat dissipation, even more so in black (which absorbs heat). It would need to be anodised. Which is probably what it will be.
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FYI for anyone reading this, black is both a good absorber and emitter of heat. It depends on the use case.
 
ALXAndy said:
You don't need to, just concentrate on the howling inconsistencies.

I don't think they are fake. I just think they are 3d printed for testing purposes.
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Good spot there, I wonder if these are reject batches from a quality perspective. Somone might have snapped a pic on the way to the dumpster.
 
KillBoY_UK said:
How so? If your main competitor is more efficient with less and sooner. Then when you competitors do start using 7nm like you .......
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A new node was available to AMD, they used it. Nvidia can start using it too sure, but at the point of competing with the AMD 7nm product they weren't so how is it relevant that they could start using it a year or 2 later?

AMD have stated a 50% efficiency uplift from RDNA1 to RDNA2, but that's completely irrelevant in the comparison we have with actual products that are on the market too.
 
JediFragger said:
Mainstream.
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They were. What other uses did they have apart from gaming and mainstream uses? everything else was locked out. They were halo products of a mainstream part. Well, the Volta one wasn't that was more of a prototype.

That is possibly why a 3090Ti exists, because they may have realised they need to slip into the "mainstream" product stack for more sales. The reason they are doing it is simple. Titan branding usually comes with it the expectation (as it always happens) that a cheaper more mainstream part will be on the way. GTX 780, 780Ti, 980Ti, 1080Ti, 2080Ti. That means that many avoid them because they realise what they are. However, in an era of bragging and showing off? this would play right into their hands. Who, with more money than sense, could buy an 80 part when a 90 one exists?

The whole 20 series sold like hot cakes. You can accept that or not, it's up to you. I didn't want to, but the facts and figures don't lie. Many here? bailed. The price was simply too much for them. That does not mean the whole world thought that way.
 
Sargatanas2511 said:
A new node was available to AMD, they used it. Nvidia can start using it too sure, but at the point of competing with the AMD 7nm product they weren't so how is it relevant that they could start using it a year or 2 later?

AMD have stated a 50% efficiency uplift from RDNA1 to RDNA2, but that's completely irrelevant in the comparison we have with actual products that are on the market too.
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They took a new node and they still only mactch something from 2 years before on older tech.

as for the 50% claim we only have AMD's word for that. Not like they have ever added coal into the hype train before, or vendor slides are always told the truth. They will need a 50% PPW boost for sure to stay competitive.
 
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