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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

10GB in next gen doesn't equate with 10GB previous gen. You literally cannot infer anything from 10GB until you understand the rest of the tech.

Yes and no - there is only so far that works - at some point no amount of clever tech gets around the need for a certain minimum amount of storage.
 
Nvidias RMA is very good when I needed to use it. One of my 2080 Ti's out of the box had a faulty RTX logo lighting issue, GPU itself was absolutely fine.

Whole logo was red at boot and orange in windows, setup an RMA with nvidia online chat and all they wanted off me was my serial number and address, they sent a brand new sealed 2080 Ti to my house at no expense to me while I still had the faulty one within a week. Nvidias RMA has been the best I've seen.
Agreed, when my FE 1080ti went pop I had a replacement within about 5 days. Excellent service.
 
The point is, efficiency is irrelevant to whether or not we'll use more. The answer is always: of course we will. Nature abhors a vacuum. That's why even though streets get wider or more of them get added, traffic congestion doesn't decrease. When humans shut in because of a pandemic animals & insects swoop in to the now abandoned spaces. And when you get more efficient GPUs you don't just use them to solve the previous computational loads faster, you actually devise ever more complex loads instead. No different for vram, we'll get the opportunity to use more detailed textures & have a higher streaming budget.

So one thing I can absolutely guarantee: with more vram added as a baseline (=consoles) you won't have lower vram demands on PC either but the exact opposite. 8GB will be the new 4GB.
 
I don't think 10GB is enough in 2020, I've had 11GB or more for than three years so it seems like a backward step.

+1, if the 3080 is 35% faster than the 2080TI its solidly a 4K card and 10GB is not quite enough for that, it need's to be at least 12GB.

And it trickles down, the 3070 is likely to be as fast as a 2080TI, is that just 8GB?
 
So if that ends up being accurate looks like the 3090 is effectively the Titan and there is a gap for a 3080ti to slot in at around the same pricing of the 2080ti's. Presumably Nvidia holding it back for Navi 21/22 launch.
Does look like that, I can't allow myself to buy anything until after the Navi launch. I just hope the 3080ti is much closer to the 3090 than the 3080.
 
Long story short the were trying to bury bad reviews of their products even offering people money to stay quiet when products had serious design flaws rather than recall/fix them (so quite happy to sell a known flawed product to their customers). If you look at the thread about laptops on the forums here it isn't really surprising.
Aha, thanks for the heads up.
 
There is a 25% difference between them, its a tight squeeze.

Its only 17.6%. So an even tighter squeeze. Too tight for a 3080ti. Maybe enough space for a 3080 super though which is slightly faster (5%) and has 16 or 20Gb memory.

The 3080 is where the sensible money should be if the above graph is right. Its 33.8% faster than a 2080ti.

The only killer for it if is its only 10Gb.

I would happily have settled for a 3080 if it had more memory.

The extra 17.6% more performance the 3090 offers for $600 more just doesnt make sense.....unless you need that memory.
 
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