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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 Gaming Performance Previewed – AMD Calls It “Unappealing”, On Par With A Rade

Boomstick777 said:
Any chance of a passive 960? It use little power (Unless overclocked). Would be a nice passive card for HTPC etc.
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I think there will be passive GTX 960 but it will take months to wait. When GTX 750 was launched back in Feb 2014 it took Zotac about 6 months worked on passive GTX 750 and finally launched ZONE Edition back in Aug 2014.
 
I believe its the cheapest card with HDMI 2.0.

For this reason alone it's going to end up in my HTPC. Does it support HEVC hardware decoding ?
 
Bonjour said:
NVidia compare it to a 660 because that's the market they're after and because it compares more favourably with a 660 than a 760.

There must be tens of thousands of 1080p DOTA / League of Legends players out there looking for a reasonable speed bump.
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I have a pre-overclocked GTX660 in a mini-ITX system which cost me £135 with a free pre-release copy of Metro:Last Light worth nearly £30. That was 20 months ago and on top of that Nvidia gimped the GTX660 with artificially low power limits. You need something like KGB to overcome the lock.

The GTX960 is comparatively worse value and a poor upgrade considering how cheap the GTX760 and R9 280 have been. The power consumption argument is funny. I see less than 200w at the wall and my mates mini itx system with an R9 280 is well under 300w.


Plus I have played LOL and DOTA and know plenty who played. A GTX660 is OTT at 1080P.
 
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It just feels meh, like the 285. No real upgrade just features. Even over the 660 given it's 3 years it's hardly progress. Also the 960 is effectively a £170 card so the fair comparison is to the 280X not the 280/285.

It reminds me of when AMD went from the 4870 to the 5830 which cost about the same performed the same but had some new features.

Have to say though looking at benchmarks in the reviews anyone who got a 970 for £239.99 or picked up one of those PCS 290s for £199 can feel very pleased with their purchases.
 
Jamielicious said:
Have to say though looking at benchmarks in the reviews anyone who got a 970 for £239.99 or picked up one of those PCS 290s for £199 can feel very pleased with their purchases.
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I think i will be very happy with a GTX 960.

I don't think i could justify a GTX 970 or 290P though.:)
 
Kaapstad said:
I think i will be very happy with a GTX 960.

I don't think i could justify a GTX 970 or 290P though.:)
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Try being happy when its your only card and its been a **** increase over the GTX660 which came out in 2012. I am the target market and own a mini-ITX PC and its meh and overpriced as the R9 285.

Another person I know who owns a GTX750TI in a mini-ITX system too and was excited about it decided not to bother too.

I will be paying essentially double to get double the performance of the card I bought two years ago.

This is the 8600GT/2600XT situation yet again.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Try being happy when its your only card and its been a **** increase over the GTX660 which came out in 2012. I am the target market and own a mini-ITX PC and its meh and overpriced as the R9 285.

Another person I know who owns a GTX750TI in a mini-ITX system too and was excited about it decided not to bother too.

I will be paying essentially double to get double the performance of the card I bought two years ago.

This is the 8600GT/2600XT situation yet again.
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Am I missing something here, I have just been looking at a bang for buck graph and the 960 offers more than a 970 in the value department.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_960_STRIX_OC/31.html

I also don't understand why people are disappointed with the performance of the 960, it is only logical to accept that the card was never going to beat out the bigger 970. From what I can see of the 960 it is basically half a GTX 980 and has the performance to match that.

As to gaming I have not done much for a couple of years but I used to spend 50 or 60 hours a week or more on it. The reason I mention this is when I played a lot it did not really matter what graphics card I was using as the games were the most important bit and sometimes I was using a card far worse than the 960. I sometimes think people get too hung up on the hardware at the expense of the games.:)
 
As according to the Overclock3d review of the Asus GTX960 Strix;

There are two main targets for the GTX960, those who own a GTX750 or under, and its AMD rival is the R9 280. When it comes to power efficiency it's no contest at all. The GTX960 Strix draws 200W less than its Radeon opponent. In other words you could SLI the GTX960 and still not get close to the power requirements of the AMD offering.'

and

'In nearly every title the GTX960 comfortably outperforms the GTX750Ti, GTX760 and, more often than not, the GTX770. We know that nVidia are aiming this at an even older card in their range but if it can beat the last generation ones it's worthy of mention. As for the Radeon cards you need a R9 290 before you regularly get ahead of the GTX960, and that takes twice the power and costs half as much again.

We desperately want strong competition between the two main GPU manufacturers but it's clear that the Maxwell architecture has moved the goalposts. The GTX980 is blisteringly fast, the GTX970 dominates the bottom of the top end, and now the GTX960 happily takes over the crown of the fastest, most efficient midrange card around. Given that sub £200 cards are the easily most popular ones it's almost a license to print money.'

Job Done. Perfect for a low power MITX, a secondary gaming setup / office machine. It is likely a great mid-range card, and the prices will settle as with all cards - want more, spend more.

For me great product and will be well positioned.

Martin
 
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Kaapstad said:
I think i will be very happy with a GTX 960.

I don't think i could justify a GTX 970 or 290P though.:)
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That's most likely because you have loads of cards already. For anyone coming from a mid end last Gen would you recommend this over a £200 290 pcs+. Baring in mind after selling the games the price drops to around £170.
 
Kaapstad said:
Am I missing something here, I have just been looking at a bang for buck graph and the 960 offers more than a 970 in the value department.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_960_STRIX_OC/31.html

I also don't understand why people are disappointed with the performance of the 960, it is only logical to accept that the card was never going to beat out the bigger 970. From what I can see of the 960 it is basically half a GTX 980 and has the performance to match that.

As to gaming I have not done much for a couple of years but I used to spend 50 or 60 hours a week or more on it. The reason I mention this is when I played a lot it did not really matter what graphics card I was using as the games were the most important bit and sometimes I was using a card far worse than the 960. I sometimes think people get too hung up on the hardware at the expense of the games.:)
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lol yeh the card really shines at 1600x900, a res i thought we waved bye bye to in 2005 or something
it was unrealistic to think nvidia would do anything to upset the apple cart i agree, but i duno to me they are just making playing games on the pc look bad right now

in nvidia's world if you want to play games at 1080p they expect you to pay for the 970 & a overpriced screen to go with it to take advantage of their best feature

new levels of milking in 2015
ripping off people at the high end i dont have much problem with, holding back the whole pc scene not so much!
 
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