Nvidia GeForce GTX 980 Ti Coming This Summer Featuring 3072 CUDA Cores and 6GB of GDDR5

Jeps · 30 Apr 2015 at 13:55

randal said:
Unless this is to avoid another 3.5gb-esque gate by redistributing memory across the crossbars in a new architecture?

Maybe if it was using 8 GB of ram but with only 6 there should be no need. Might just be a slight change in the manufacturing process of the chip, something like the stepping on intel CPUs

varkanoid · 30 Apr 2015 at 13:57

Ayahuasca said:
It's got me questioning whether nVidia know the 3 series will beat their lineup in terms of performance so they're releasing all their cards now to try and grab even more market share before the 3 series lands.

You could spin it the other way in that they know their cards beat/level the 3 series so release the 980 TI just before they come out so it would make the 3 series even less favourable.

gjc10212 · 30 Apr 2015 at 13:59

If these are £400-£500 count me as sold.

Ayahuasca · 30 Apr 2015 at 14:04

varkanoid said:
You could spin it the other way in that they know their cards beat/level the 3 series so release the 980 TI just before they come out so it would make the 3 series even less favourable.

I'd be extremely surprised to see AMD being beaten for price/performance on the new cards.

It would all but end them in the discrete GPU sector.

PayneUK · 30 Apr 2015 at 14:08

gjc10212 said:
If these are £400-£500 count me as sold.

As much as I'd like that to be the case I can't see them being under £600, at least not at the start. NVidia may supprise us but as long as its essencially just a TX with half as much ram then ~£650 for a EVGA SC/ACX/Classified version will be a good price right now.

Nelly · 30 Apr 2015 at 14:12

£549.99 to £649.99 depending on model is my guess.

Orangey · 30 Apr 2015 at 14:13

Most likely just less memory interfaces, as they will probably just remove the backside modules. So it will use less power and maybe get away with the gimped cooler with no vapour chamber.

Boomstick777 · 30 Apr 2015 at 14:22

pete910 said:
Might have ben answered all ready but not read the entire thread.

Why not 8gb? Is it bus multiplication thing?

randal said:
Unless this is to avoid another 3.5gb-esque gate by redistributing memory across the crossbars in a new architecture?

Yep, that's right. To achieve 8GB would have required manipulation. Whereas 6GB would allow true 6GB utilization.

Wander how much these will cost..

Ayahuasca said:
It's got me questioning whether nVidia know the 3 series will beat their lineup in terms of performance so they're releasing all their cards now to try and grab even more market share before the 3 series lands.

I don't think it matters tbh, the AMD cards need to be better to regain some market share. Nvidia are so far ahead (In terms of market share). Even if AMD cards are better performance / cost. Nvidia can afford to lose a fair chunk of market share to avoid being a monopoly and follow up with a big launch in Q1/Q2 2016. They have made a fortune on Maxwell already. Allow AMD to catchup a bit then make a big play with Pascal next year on a more mature HBM type memory architecture and die shrink. Nvdia will bring the big guns with Pascal.

It's down to AMD to deliver with the 3XX series and play catchup. I expect them to lead in performance this year and Nvidia to overtake again next year. It's always been this way though, one slightly ahead of the other and vise / versa. Only difference is this time Nvidia almost own the market (76%) and can afford to let AMD play catchup while they reap record profits.

AMD need to come out fighting for sure. I'll prob buy 390X on day one, I like to do my bit :-D

mac40 · 30 Apr 2015 at 14:39

Boomstick777 said:
I don't think it matters tbh, the AMD cards need to be better to regain some market share. Nvidia are so far ahead (In terms of market share). Even if AMD cards are better performance / cost. Nvidia can afford to lose a fair chunk of market share to avoid being a monopoly and follow up with a big launch in Q1/Q2 2016. They have made a fortune on Maxwell already. Allow AMD to catchup a bit then make a big play with Pascal next year on a more mature HBM type memory architecture and die shrink. Nvdia will bring the big guns with Pascal.

It's down to AMD to deliver with the 3XX series and play catchup. I expect them to lead in performance this year and Nvidia to overtake again next year. It's always been this way though, one slightly ahead of the other and vise / versa. Only difference is this time Nvidia almost own the market (76%) and can afford to let AMD play catchup while they reap record profits.

AMD need to come out fighting for sure. I'll prob buy 390X on day one, I like to do my bit

^this

DavidS14 · 30 Apr 2015 at 14:58

Some of this could also be down to yields on the wafers improving over time and they are at a stage where they can support a card at a lower price point and higher volumes.

Squink · 30 Apr 2015 at 15:35

Assuming this will be a 1440p card, are there any titles that push 6gb at this resolution? I feel it's going to be (purposefully) tight on VRAM in AAA titles in a year or two.

bru · 30 Apr 2015 at 15:37

I don't think any of these last ditch 28nm cards will have a particularly long lifespan, we need a die shrink and it will come next year with big performance improvements.

Boomstick777 · 30 Apr 2015 at 15:47

bru said:
I don't think any of these last ditch 28nm cards will have a particularly long lifespan, we need a die shrink and it will come next year with big performance improvements.

Yup, next year will be a resurgence on interest on the PC space. Die shrinks, finally some nice performance per watt gains after stagnation on 28nm, better architecture from AMD. Windows 10 established and games starting to utilise DirectX 12.

Windows 8.1 failing to grab market and stagnation of CPU / GPU haven't helped the PC market, W10 actually looks like it will be good and finally some die shrunk hardware, if an £850 28nm GPU can grab some market share, imagine what a powerful 14nm/16nm £400 card, along with an AMD CPU that's actually good could do to the marekt. Most people are just waiting for something worthy of an upgrade. Think 2016 will buck the downward trend and see growth.

nashathedog · 30 Apr 2015 at 16:08

mulpsmebeauty said:
Assuming this will be a 1440p card, are there any titles that push 6gb at this resolution? I feel it's going to be (purposefully) tight on VRAM in AAA titles in a year or two.

I don't think it's going to increase much more for a while, We've already had the jump in ram used due to the new console limits and I'm guessing it'll even out for a while as the consoles limit mustn't be breached by the game developers, at least until the next gen console turns up then it'll depend on what they have inside.

africanos23 · 30 Apr 2015 at 20:12

Seems the GTX980Ti is "confirmed" to be 6GB VRAM by videocardz

http://videocardz.com/55419/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-confirmed-to-feature-6gb-memory

Mal X · 30 Apr 2015 at 20:19

so yet another month delay after the 1st lot are sold out, so that'll be 2 cards that you cant buy .............. somebody shoot me :rolleyes:

so what about the 390X ??............... you'll choose to buy whichever card is in stock at that time....................OH DEAR !!!

so Nvidia had better take care

Kaapstad · 30 Apr 2015 at 20:19

africanos23 said:
Seems the GTX980Ti is "confirmed" to be 6GB VRAM by videocardz

http://videocardz.com/55419/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-confirmed-to-feature-6gb-memory

Lets see how this plays out.

Telecaster · 30 Apr 2015 at 20:21

africanos23 said:
Seems the GTX980Ti is "confirmed" to be 6GB VRAM by videocardz

http://videocardz.com/55419/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-confirmed-to-feature-6gb-memory

Yeah, it's about half a dozen posts up this page

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=27978914&postcount=336

P.B · 30 Apr 2015 at 20:36

Would be nice to see a pair of these in classified flavours.

With these being basically the same as a titan X with half the ram what would stop me sli my titan with 980ti?

apart from nvidias greed lol

DarrenM343 · 30 Apr 2015 at 20:44

Ayahuasca said:
It's got me questioning whether nVidia know the 3 series will beat their lineup in terms of performance so they're releasing all their cards now to try and grab even more market share before the 3 series lands.

As time goes by surely it's natural to expect more of the next cards to be released? If AMD release something only slightly faster than nVidia's offerings given the many more months of R&D they have had it wouldn't be any good. ANother way to look at it is the longer it takes for AMD to release new cards the closer it also gets to nVidia's next big releases again.

I'm guessing the bigger a market share the competition grabs the better your latest product needs to be. Not many would sell their latest nVidia cards for a 10% increase to join the other side.What would it take?20% 30 % 40 % but then what if people expect new cards again from nVidia not too longer afterwards?

I hope AMD do come up with the goods as we need healthy competition