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You actually think nvidia set prices based on hardware cost lol, TX is an extreme milking exercise.
The 980ti is to compete with the 390X, if that means it has to be faster and cheaper than the TX then it will.
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Nvidia GeForce GTX 980 Ti Coming This Summer Featuring 3072 CUDA Cores and 6GB of GDDR5
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You actually think nvidia set prices based on hardware cost lol, TX is an extreme milking exercise.
The 980ti is to compete with the 390X, if that means it has to be faster and cheaper than the TX then it will.
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It won't be Nvidia will shave off 5-10%; but shutting off a core.....They will want Titan X to stay at the top of the stack. so they can keep saying Titan X is worth that extra 400......
390X is the wrinkle though
Du'h, The 980ti will be DP compute crippled, so instead of 1/32 FP 64 performance it will be I presume around 1/256 FP 64 performance.
So Titan X worth the cash as a cheap DP compute card with the massive 0.2TF FP64 performance. For half the price you can get a 980ti that has only 0.025TF FP 64 performance making it a useless DP compute card by comparison.
SP is faster anyway, no-one is going to buy Titan X or 980 Ti based on DP alone, such a moot point bringing up DP. People are buying these cards to game with.
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Nvidia know exactly what they're doing, and they are no doubt shrewd operators.
The kind of people that will buy the Titan X - most of them will already have done so by the end of this week, and often more than one.
That leaves the more 'sensible' people to pick up the 980Ti when it arrives, I have no doubt, in a few months time. This will keep the momentum going, and probably equal or better AMD's new offering, for a similar price (perhaps).
Nvidia rakes it in big time X2. You've got to hand it to them.
The kind of people that will buy the Titan X - most of them will already have done so by the end of this week, and often more than one.
That leaves the more 'sensible' people to pick up the 980Ti when it arrives, I have no doubt, in a few months time. This will keep the momentum going, and probably equal or better AMD's new offering, for a similar price (perhaps).
Nvidia rakes it in big time X2. You've got to hand it to them.
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Anyone else planning to SLI the gtx980ti and wondering about possible PSU requirements? Currently have a Cooler Master V750 watt gold (92% power efficiency).
According to PSU calculators, 599w minimum and 649w recommended for 780ti, wich may possibly be equilivent of 980ti in power.
If this card is priced at 499 euro's. I may buy two of em. 6GB vram is just right for me.
According to PSU calculators, 599w minimum and 649w recommended for 780ti, wich may possibly be equilivent of 980ti in power.
If this card is priced at 499 euro's. I may buy two of em. 6GB vram is just right for me.
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It sounds like it'll be the perfect option for 1440p gaming if it does turn up. If the 390x and free-sync don't get me this will be what I end up with.
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499 euro's ?
Isn't that 980 pricing? Isn't this more likely to sit middle of the road between the 980 and TX.
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Sad thing is this will probably end up the 5th card Nvidia release before the 390x, it's really very fail from AMD and I'm one of their biggest fans 
I bet a lot of people holding out for the 390x will just go with the 980ti if it's priced right and the performance is good
I bet a lot of people holding out for the 390x will just go with the 980ti if it's priced right and the performance is good
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I predict it will be £525. 525 of your English pounds please.
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Hahahaha
I honestly don't know how to take that post... lacking a belly button... I've read it repeatedly now and can't work it out. I presume he meant to say excited while on an empty stomach and not hungry/tired/lacking concentration mode that can put you into.
But empty stomach and lacking a belly button aren't close. I'm confused and amused at the same time.
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Still can't grasp the simple difference between claims and actions can you.
I never said anyone on here bought it for the DP performance, in fact I laughed at that suggestion when it was made.
I said Nvidia guys on here through the Titan/Titan Z launches used the DP performance to excuse it's pricing and pointed out the hypocrisy of at a later date doing what you are, saying DP isn't important. When it had DP performance you guys excused the price because it offered one thing gaming cards didn't, high DP performance. When it doesn't have it, you guys claim it's irrelevant.... but that means it was irrelevant before and the DP performance was pointless and thus paying more for the DP performance in the first place was stupid.
Throughout, since the first time Titan was announced I said no one was buying it for DP performance and the price was absurd. The only people to do a 180 is the Nvidia guys, feature A is important and thus justifies the price to feature A is irrelevant to us and not required on the card.
Normally he would get only get that excited when the silicon was in something that had a belly button.
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Could be interested in this as a replacement fir 780 sli, price dependent. Less heat, less power used. 6gb does seem a bit skimpy though. Also ill hold out and see what the 390 is like, shame theres so little solid info on it though.
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1) Wccftech (add extra salt)
2) 6GB is meh... for 1440p or 4K future-proofing I wouldn't consider it to be honest (I don't like dropping settings)
3) The 5-10% performance will be vs non OCed Titan X if true (who goes and gets this kind of hardware and doesn't OC seriously)?
4) DP is irrelevant to the convo
5) Will be a cooler chip, but that will be more due to aftermarket coolers from different vendors (Twin Frozr, ACX 2.0 etc)
2) 6GB is meh... for 1440p or 4K future-proofing I wouldn't consider it to be honest (I don't like dropping settings
)3) The 5-10% performance will be vs non OCed Titan X if true (who goes and gets this kind of hardware and doesn't OC seriously)?
4) DP is irrelevant to the convo
5) Will be a cooler chip, but that will be more due to aftermarket coolers from different vendors (Twin Frozr, ACX 2.0 etc)
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An excellent summation of how some people twist and weave regarding the Titan pricing. The Titan X is overpriced for what it is, and this is coming from a staunch Nvidia fan who is considering the buying the card. Some people need to get real.
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Well, I was assuming the regular 980's to drop in price by that time. AMD's new 390x chips release most likely in june summer, 980ti probably in july? That is only 2 months from September, wich is when 980 released LAST YEAR! NVIDIA has been milking the card for far too long due to AMD needing to pick up slack.
''Reasonable'' prices would be:
GTX 960 150 euros
GTX 970 250 euros
GTX 980 350 euros
GTX 980TI 500 euros
GTX Titan X 750 euros
That should be the pricing... and it would have been if AMD wasn't slacking.
I remember when competition was tough back in the day with ATI, at times when some cards were reaching their end cycle, you could pay 250 to 300 euro's for a brand new 980 equilivent wich today costs 650 euros... hoooly ****!
We better pray for AMD come with something magical, or pc gamers worldwide will go into an economic epedemic with NVIDIA prices. Its not good us consumers... its been worrying me for a while.
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AMD need to get their act together if they want to survive. They should have seen this coming a mile away and prepared something along the lines of a 390x 'Ultra' to counter nvidia's predictable release of the 980Ti. AMD may now only hold onto the performance crown for about 2 months before nvidia take back the prestige of being performance champions, and with it, the customers who base their purchases on the back of who has the best performing hardware out on the market (regardless of whether or not they actually buy top tier cards). This will likely continue until pascal releases, at which point EVERYONE will buy nvidia cards, and AMD haemorrhage further market share until they eventually release the 400 series. Queue the 1080Ti 2 months later...
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