Nvidia GeForce GTX 980 Ti Coming This Summer Featuring 3072 CUDA Cores and 6GB of GDDR5

Poneros · 26 Mar 2015 at 18:45

whyscotty said:
Nice reply - or got out of bed the wrong side.

Spends good money on a 4K monitor to lower settings

The difference between a decent 4K monitor and a decent 1440p monitor is about 100 quid. I ran SoM with the ultra textures and the difference is minimal in image quality, certainly not worth spending more than 100 for extra vram for cards.

J.D · 26 Mar 2015 at 18:47

theMilitant said:
AMD need to get their act together if they want to survive. They should have seen this coming a mile away and prepared something along the lines of a 390x 'Ultra' to counter nvidia's predictable release of the 980Ti. AMD may now only hold onto the performance crown for about 2 months before nvidia take back the prestige of being performance champions, and with it, the customers who base their purchases on the back of who has the best performing hardware out on the market (regardless of whether or not they actually buy top tier cards). This will likely continue until pascal releases, at which point EVERYONE will buy nvidia cards, and AMD haemorrhage further market share until they eventually release the 400 series. Queue the 1080Ti 2 months later...

If the 390X was to beat or match the Titan-X then you would still have the non X 390 to compete with the 980Ti. This is obviously just speculation but a possibility if true.

whyscotty · 26 Mar 2015 at 18:55

Poneros said:
The difference between a decent 4K monitor and a decent 1440p monitor is about 100 quid. I ran SoM with the ultra textures and the difference is minimal in image quality, certainly not worth spending more than 100 for extra vram for cards.

My point was - you don't buy a 4K monitor to run lowered settings.

And if you game with max settings, then 6GB with be a limiting factor.(game dependant)

As for you saying it's not worth it - that's your opinion - to which your entitled to

theMilitant · 26 Mar 2015 at 19:03

J.D said:
If the 390X was to beat or match the Titan-X then you would still have the non X 390 to compete with the 980Ti. This is obviously just speculation but a possibility if true.

Sorry, I should have clarified - I'd consider the 390x to have taken back the performance crown if it beats the 980, not the Titan X. The Titan X is not a 'mainstream' card imo, in the same way that the 290x or 980 are. The Titan cards have established an entirely new market section in my view, in which AMD have chosen not to compete.

africanos23 · 26 Mar 2015 at 19:05

The differences from 1440p to 4K depend on the game but they can't be neglected.

yoyo59 · 26 Mar 2015 at 19:10

can titan X owners enjoy there card for a second please..

dammit..

rumors

Huntyz · 26 Mar 2015 at 19:11

If these in SLI are good in GTA 5 @ 4k i'll grab 2

africanos23 · 26 Mar 2015 at 19:12

yoyo59 said:
can titan X owners enjoy there card for a second please..

dammit..

rumors

I'm getting the bad end of the stick (Tomorrow for me)

Darn brits with their next day shipping

mmj_uk · 26 Mar 2015 at 19:17

If true it's going to be interesting to see what 970 and particularly 980 get priced at, 970 is great value as it is but should AMD pull a rabbit out of the hat I think it's fair to say that they can go a lot lower particularly with the 980 which has a huge markup.

D.P. · 26 Mar 2015 at 19:20

theMilitant said:
Sorry, I should have clarified - I'd consider the 390x to have taken back the performance crown if it beats the 980, not the Titan X. The Titan X is not a 'mainstream' card imo, in the same way that the 290x or 980 are. The Titan cards have established an entirely new market section in my view, in which AMD have chosen not to compete.

AMD didn't choose not to compete, they simple can't. They tried to compete in the past with eh 295x2 at $1500. People wont pay Titan x prices for AMD hardware because they don't see the value in the AMD brand

SiDeards73 · 26 Mar 2015 at 19:27

D.P. said:
AMD didn't choose not to compete, they simple can't. They tried to compete in the past with eh 295x2 at $1500. People wont pay Titan x prices for AMD hardware because they don't see the value in the AMD brand

Thats a bit of an ignorant statement in all honesty, you sound all knowing and a bit condescending.

While you have somewhat of a point that people didnt buy the 295x2, it was probably more to do with the fact it had an AIO slapped on it, Crossfire support is generally extremely poor, its still only 2 x 4gb cards on one board and has a massive PSU requirement to run the damn thing.

I wouldnt buy the 295x2 because of the AIO, i hate my CPU AIO and definitely wouldnt want another one in my case attached to a GPU.

AMD are consistently late to the party with often underwhelming products, however at the price they put them they are the intelligent choice for many people who favour performance gained per pound spent, something Nvidia unfortunately cannot offer or have not been able to offer for a long while.

Its a real shame because if they were just a bit better in a few areas, AMD would clean up with their GPU's, but theres always atleast 1 thing that holds them back, but price is never one of them.

theMilitant · 26 Mar 2015 at 19:39

D.P. said:
AMD didn't choose not to compete, they simple can't. They tried to compete in the past with eh 295x2 at $1500. People wont pay Titan x prices for AMD hardware because they don't see the value in the AMD brand

I disagree. The closest competitor to the 295x2 was the Titan Z, to which it performed very comparably and at half the price. In terms of hardware performance, there's been very little to separate AMD and nvidia over the years. It's the driver support that usually lets AMD down (particularly for crossfire configurations). As far as single card solutions go, there are few complaints regarding driver support from both sides. I agree with your point though that AMD's brand is losing its value.

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-TITAN-Z-Review/Crysis-3

D.P. · 26 Mar 2015 at 19:58

SiDeards73 said:
Thats a bit of an ignorant statement in all honesty, you sound all knowing and a bit condescending.

While you have somewhat of a point that people didnt buy the 295x2, it was probably more to do with the fact it had an AIO slapped on it, Crossfire support is generally extremely poor, its still only 2 x 4gb cards on one board and has a massive PSU requirement to run the damn thing.

I wouldnt buy the 295x2 because of the AIO, i hate my CPU AIO and definitely wouldnt want another one in my case attached to a GPU.

AMD are consistently late to the party with often underwhelming products, however at the price they put them they are the intelligent choice for many people who favour performance gained per pound spent, something Nvidia unfortunately cannot offer or have not been able to offer for a long while.

Its a real shame because if they were just a bit better in a few areas, AMD would clean up with their GPU's, but theres always atleast 1 thing that holds them back, but price is never one of them.

AMD don't choose to have lower prices, they are forced to sell at lwoer pries due to market conditions. Nvidia can sell their cards cheaper if they want to, but there is no point because the market is willing to pay more for them. the 980 costs a lot less to produce than the s90X does, Nvidia just get to reap all the fat margins.

AMD is not a charity - their aim is to make profits, if they can charge more they will.

D.P. · 26 Mar 2015 at 20:00

theMilitant said:
I disagree. The closest competitor to the 295x2 was the Titan Z, to which it performed very comparably and at half the price. In terms of hardware performance, there's been very little to separate AMD and nvidia over the years. It's the driver support that usually lets AMD down (particularly for crossfire configurations). As far as single card solutions go, there are few complaints regarding driver support from both sides. I agree with your point though that AMD's brand is losing its value.

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-TITAN-Z-Review/Crysis-3

I never specified performance, I talked about perceived value.
Bad drivers and software support is part of that.

Whether any of it is justified or not it is just a simple fact that the market is willing to pay more for Nvidia hardware than AMD, therefore AMD can't release products on the Titan X price range.

LoadsaMoney · 26 Mar 2015 at 20:10

Titan, 780 Ti all over again

RanxZy · 26 Mar 2015 at 20:12

Cut down Titan X GM200 GPU 6GB @ £549.99 will come before the 980Ti imo. 3 months max. Price drop on 980s too. NVIDIA have plenty more dollars to make off of Maxwell and they have made sure of that since Kepler. $550 for small chip $999 for big chip.

The "treat em mean" early adopter prices are doing wonders for them. Maybe I should get this info published on wccftech, just about as legit as their rambling.

se_vietboi · 26 Mar 2015 at 20:21

Cmon we all saw this coming from Nvidia, the masters of milking.

africanos23 · 26 Mar 2015 at 20:22

se_vietboi said:
Cmon we all saw this coming from Nvidia, the masters of milking.

AMD has let them do it though ...

RanxZy said:
Cut down Titan X GM200 GPU 6GB @ £549.99 will come before the 980Ti imo. 3 months max. Price drop on 980s too. NVIDIA have plenty more dollars to make off of Maxwell and they have made sure of that since Kepler. $550 for small chip $999 for big chip.

The "treat em mean" early adopter prices are doing wonders for them. Maybe I should get this info published on wccftech, just about as legit as their rambling.

I can get a story up for you if you want , one of the main writers is a friend

JediFragger · 26 Mar 2015 at 20:25

RanxZy said:
Cut down Titan X GM200 GPU 6GB @ £549.99 will come before the 980Ti imo. 3 months max. Price drop on 980s too. NVIDIA have plenty more dollars to make off of Maxwell and they have made sure of that since Kepler. $550 for small chip $999 for big chip.

The "treat em mean" early adopter prices are doing wonders for them. Maybe I should get this info published on wccftech, just about as legit as their rambling.

They won't dilute the Titan brand tbh, they'll released the same or similar chip with less memory under a different name

Nelly · 26 Mar 2015 at 20:30

Release price of the custom GTX 780's were £549.99 when I bought mine, then months later the 780Ti was also the same price when released, the prices stuck in my memory because I was so ****ed off at the time.

Expect the same thing this time around with the release price on the 980Ti.