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PrincessFrosty said:
No it's not "unknown", it's a conscious choice to offer pre-order queue positions to customers who want to get into a queue and can't do it anywhere else. Some people are happy they can join a queue somewhere rather than be faced with perpetual camping stores only to get nothing. If YOU don't think that's a good deal then great, don't join the queue. But some of us think that's fine and are glad it exists.

I wish people would stop talking about this as if it's somehow objectively bad just because they don't like the idea. The service is a choice, no one is forcing you to use it.
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False. It's because OCUK know they would be the only ones offering preorders and accept FULL payment upfront and can keep that money for months, all the while using it, before they even ship you a card. So what if a few hundred cancel? You're getting a nice stream of fresh preorders. They're sitting on a nice £6mil+ from preorders alone. Probably getting interest from that money, probably also using that money for other things.

OCUK know that preorders are a great way to get some financial gain in the whole NVIDIA mess while also letting people like you come up with excuses of why they're doing it. They have a HUGE queue. The biggest to any competitor in europe, nevermind the UK.

I understand queuing is good, however, I can import cards from germany without a queue and have them arrive within a week. I can also go to other competitors (in the UK) and snag a card and have it within days. So tell me again why sitting in line with £700-1600 out of your pocket for months is a good thing?

If they are so concerned on letting people have a queue place without worrying they'll need to F5, why don't they allow partial payment? Or no payment until the card is in their warehouse? You know... when they actually have an idea when the cards will be shipped. The reason is my comments above. They know this is making them money. A lot of it too.

Add to that WHOLE thing, that overclockers staff literally do not care and the updates you guys get are horrendous, just shows they don't actually care. Atleast not enough to update you or inform you, or offer some kind of insight or information.

To top this whole thing off, you've got to wonder why OCUK have also artifically inflated their prices WAY MORE than any other competitor, knowing they're at the bottom of the list at securing stock. Yes, they're at the bottom of the food chain at actually receving GPUs from AMD and Nvidia and openly LIED about being Nvidias biggest partner (funny how they didn't get to sell the FE cards isn't it...).
 
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PrincessFrosty said:
No it's not "unknown", it's a conscious choice to offer pre-order queue positions to customers who want to get into a queue and can't do it anywhere else. Some people are happy they can join a queue somewhere rather than be faced with perpetual camping stores only to get nothing. If YOU don't think that's a good deal then great, don't join the queue. But some of us think that's fine and are glad it exists.

I wish people would stop talking about this as if it's somehow objectively bad just because they don't like the idea. The service is a choice, no one is forcing you to use it.
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That is fine if you want to tie your money tied up for potentially 6 months with zero return on it. Some of us like our money to be our accounts until we can use it to get the product we want. If they are going to do a queue system it should be pay a deposit now and then the rest when the card ships. You don't pay the full price for a car 6 months before being able to drive it, the same thing applies here.
 
CMason said:
Several things. First they had some on general sale rather than offering them to people that were in the queue for another model. Secondly they oversold them, thereby just generating another queue. Thirdly they did not dispatch them in order even though they claim to have a strict first come first served policy, there were numerous reports of people ordering after I did but still getting their shipped (I did not). I spoke to someone at OC about the latter and they claim the most likely scenario is that people were lying about their order time not that they had made a mistake. This excuse just did it for me, blaming the customer rather than admitting they probably messed up.

I have now cancelled the order and will not be coming back. Everything they do regarding the 30xx is either shady or just downright bad.
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What a joke. I take it these were the Trinity OC model that were for up general sale?. I have a regular trinity pre order elsewhere, I'm number 5 in the queue and they have been using all there OC stock that they receive to bring the queue down for the non OC for no extra cost to the customer. Just two totally different practices and I'm glad that I am on the other side of this mess.
 
G3N3RIK said:
I understand queuing is good, however, I can import cards from germany without a queue and have them arrive within a week. I can also go to other competitors (in the UK) and snag a card and have it within days. So tell me again why sitting in line with £700-1600 out of your pocket for months is a good thing?
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This is misleading because getting stock elsewhere is EXTREME luck. Many of us are using bots that give updates within seconds of product going live and clicking through to store pages within seconds of them going live and stock is already gone in seconds. And of the thousands of people who are doing that very tiny percentage are successful. So this is just way out of alignment with reality, you can't just go to an EU store and get them, they sell out instantly. And on top of the fact that it's extreme luck you also need to have the time to camp on bots and click through every time they give out an update. Most people don't have the time or ability to do that all day. I'm in a lucky position to be able to do that and I still don't have a card.

This is rally super-duper-pooper simple. OCUK are offering a service. That service is completely voluntary. Some people want that service because it's the best shot they have at getting a card as quickly as possible.

You can wax lyrical about their ebil motives for doing it all you like, it doesn't matter. Some people WANT queues, OCUK are fulfilling a desired service by offering queues.

You do NOT speak for everyone here when you moan about queues, some people are glad the queues exist.

CMason said:
That is fine if you want to tie your money tied up for potentially a year with zero return on it. Some of us like our money to be our accounts until we can use it to get the product we want. If they are going to do a queue system it should be pay a deposit now and then the rest when the card ships. You don't pay the full price for a car 6 months before being able to drive it, the same thing applies here.
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A year is hyperbolic. Loads of people have savings that exceed £700 and can quite happily have that money tied up and it's literally zero problem what so ever. By choosing to live so close to being broke with such little savings as possible is a choice you make and when you make that you restrict your ability to purchase things, that's your problem not mine.

The fact that the queues are 1000s' of people long should be good evidence that people want queues. If there was a better deal elsewhere people would take their money elsewhere.
 
GottiB said:
What a joke. I take it these were the Trinity OC model that were for up general sale?. I have a regular trinity pre order elsewhere, I'm number 5 in the queue and they have been using all there OC stock that they receive to bring the queue down for the non OC for no extra cost to the customer. Just two totally different practices and I'm glad that I am on the other side of this mess.
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I'm in the regular Trinity queue here and would've even paid the difference to the overpriced OC cards just to get my hands on one. But that still doesn't make fiscal sense to OCUK so here I am, waiting for the 15 cards that come in every 3-4 weeks lol. I've generally been trying to support OCUK throughout the years, when looking to buy parts or making suggestions to people, but this has left a really sour taste in my mouth. Alas, that's how B2C generally works, and me and a few hundred other disgruntled people steering clear of them from now is likely just a blip for them. Evidenced by the fact that they can't be bothered to issue any sort of real statement, apologies or just in general reply to this thread's valid complaints.
 
PrincessFrosty said:
The fact that the queues are 1000s' of people long should be good evidence that people want queues. If there was a better deal elsewhere people would take their money elsewhere.
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It isn't evidence of that at all, it is evidence that people have 2 terrible options, get to the back of a massive queue or sod off.

As for money being tied up, again it is bad practice to tie up all of the product cost when you aren't going to ship the product for months, people should be able to put down a deposit and then pay the rest when the product is shipped. You wouldn't pay the full amount for a car you can't drive for 6 months would you? You would pay a deposit to secure the car and then pay the rest on delivery.

You can be apologetic to OC all you want but there is clearly a reason why they are approaching it one way and literally every other retailer is doing it the other way.
 
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I do think it's really cheeky to take money if you don't have the item to sell.

Consider valve. When I ordered my index I was put in a queue (no money required) and had to wait roughly 8 weeks but when it was available I got an email asking me to pay and it was with me 2 days later. THAT'S the way it should be done. You have a window and if you don't fulfil your order within a certain timeframe you lose your place and it goes to the next in line. Can't remember how long you got, might have been a week.

Either way, this is a far better way of doing it. Taking money without any way to honour the transaction at present is quite underhanded tbh.
 
Well, it's now 5 days since teh very large shipment of Gigabyte Gaming OC was received, 12pm on a Friday, and I've still not had a shipping email. Since there should have been enough for me to have hard my card now as confirmed by the gigabyte rep, I'm wanting to know where the frick my GPU is!!!!!
 
Dave Burton said:
Well, it's now 5 days since teh very large shipment of Gigabyte Gaming OC was received, 12pm on a Friday, and I've still not had a shipping email. Since there should have been enough for me to have hard my card now as confirmed by the gigabyte rep, I'm wanting to know where the frick my GPU is!!!!!
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Same boat.
High hopes of 60+ cards when I'm 48th in position but it looks like they stopped at 35 shipments, so where are the rest?
 
CMason said:
It isn't evidence of that at all, it is evidence that people have no damn choice, basically get to the back of a massive queue or sod off. That is like only being offered dry bread to eat, you have a choice of dry bread or nothing. People will choose the dry bread, doesn't mean they want or are happy with it.

As for money being tied up, again it is bad practice to tie up all of the product cost when you aren't going to ship the product for months, people should be able to put down a deposit and then pay the rest when the product is shipped. You wouldn't pay the full amount for a car you can't drive for 6 months would you? You would pay a deposit to secure the car and then pay the rest on delivery.
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Yeah we have different perspectives on this because I don't have pie in the sky idealistic views of reality, about what I think is fair, or what you deserve, or what is right. There is simply competition and it's rational to take the best deal you can get. And to moan about the person offering you the best choice is just a waste of time and pointless, it achieves nothing.

You have a whole bunch of options which are all really bad, not because of OCUKs doing, but simply because the situation is **** and there huge demand and low supply. OCUK are offering for many the best of all choices, and then people moan about the best of all choices...it's really dumb.

If I had the option between starving to death, or having dry bread, I'd be greatful for the dry bread. I don't feel like I'm owed anything, and that quality of what is on offer is relative between your choices. If a better choice comes along than OCUK like other stores open up preorder queues and don't take money up front for the cards, then that'll be a better option for many and you'll be able to cancel your OCUK order and take your business elsewhere. But right now as it stands that's not the case.
 
Bummer, just missed out on a msi trio from another vendor. Been waiting on here since the 17 sept and I nearly had one!!! FFS. Guess its back to checking the internet every few hours
 
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