*** NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 SERIES STOCK SITUATION - NO COMPETITOR DISCUSSION ***

[LostPenguins]

You can't just take the money and do nothing about the listed product, right?

Yeah, Legion is something I was actually expecting to buy anyway after how much I enjoyed the second game. Even with using the Uplay discount, I was factoring it in as a bit of a saving on the GPU cost.

 

[jaycob]

Ships got hijacked by pirates, **** it anything to take my mind of this joke of a launch.

 

[Bazz21uk]

I mean, yeah lol

Really it's a legal thing at a certain point. Provide the described goods or refund?

A legal thing that we have been promised a code (SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY). no availability then no legal thing unfortunately.

Just gotta hope you get one of the codes and that OC are honoring the ones they can. I hope they aren't just handing them out to people that didn't have it on their order invoice but idk

Ships got hijacked by pirates, **** it anything to take my mind of this joke of a launch.

yep they're all claiming their watchdog codes as we speak

 

[Mr Oblong]

Yeah, Legion is something I was actually expecting to buy anyway after how much I enjoyed the second game. Even with using the Uplay discount, I was factoring it in as a bit of a saving on the GPU cost.

Me too, helped justify a higher end GPU than I normally go for. Plus it's an RTX showcase, y'know?

 

[Xyclops]

Ive been told they are unlikely to get more


Tbh thats no reason to push somebody else down the queue. I ordered an eagle oc because the site had a delivery date. that has long passed and myself and others are in queues that we never really wanted to be in. Is it fair that we should prevent somebody getting a card that happened to choose the card thats moving?
It is what it is. nobody should have been or be allowed to swap queue if it puts somebody else at a dissadvantage. Sure swap to a shorter queue and be at the back but not swap and push somebody else back. thats just wrong on so many levels

I get what you are saying. But the problem is that its not like queueing at a shop to buy something and you see your queue isn't moving and another queue is, so you move across to the next queue (at the back with clear idea that it is a better decision than staying).

With these cards nobody knew the queue lengths for weeks or the incoming stock levels (even now we don't). By the time this became known, the people that ordered early, and probably had a horrible time doing so due to website failures, are suddenly in a position where they are stuck on the card they originally chose, because going to the back of any other queue will be a far longer wait.

I guess I am saying that if ordered a card first then its fair that you get a card first. Maybe thats because I don't particularly care about brands etc and they are all the same to me. I just went with the cheapest and I'm still in a queue waiting for it.

 

[Teal]

I'm really struggling to believe the phone call from OC to a supplier is like:

When will we get more card X?
I don't know
Ok then, bye

Unfortunately when stock is in extreme constraint that is pretty much how it goes.

... and yes, the decision making process on just who does get the stock tends to be shrouded in secrecy to avoid upsetting the different 'customers', all of whom have orders in that are multiples of the available stock.

This is why OCUK have so far been mostly limiting what they say to what they know is in the hands of a logistics company on the way to them.

This is down to Nvidia pushing a release before anyone had time to position stock or to prime the pipeline.

We've been hoping that the delays were due to larger volumes of cards being in containers on the way by sea, but there is a real possibility that most if not all of the card suppliers are actually constrained by the supply of Ampere from Nvidia, which would perhaps also explain why we are not seeing many of the non-OC versions of cards shipping.

If you get less from Nvidia than you need to run all your lines flat out then you will prioritize the cards with the higher value as long as binning is sufficient, and with the very modest OC levels this time around I suspect that most chips are meeting the required standard...

If you ordered a non-OC version, it could be a very long wait ...

 

[Deleted member 651465]

There are multi reasons: Nvidia have a dream amount, the AIB's have a large amount, the UK gets an ok amount, OCUK get a small amount and we get **** all!

The Russian doll effect

 

[Bazz21uk]

Me too, helped justify a higher end GPU than I normally go for. Plus it's an RTX showcase, y'know?

And me. Its literally the only reason i could find to justify the purchase so i'll be frustrated if it doesn't come but its a fair way off so wait and see what happens

Unfortunately when stock is in extreme constraint that is pretty much how it goes.

... and yes, the decision making process on just who does get the stock tends to be shrouded in secrecy to avoid upsetting the different 'customers', all of whom have orders in that are multiples of the available stock.

This is why OCUK have so far been mostly limiting what they say to what they know is in the hands of a logistics company on the way to them.

This is down to Nvidia pushing a release before anyone had time to position stock or to prime the pipeline.

We've been hoping that the delays were due to larger volumes of cards being in containers on the way by sea, but there is a real possibility that most if not all of the card suppliers are actually constrained by the supply of Ampere from Nvidia, which would perhaps also explain why we are not seeing many of the non-OC versions of cards shipping.

If you get less from Nvidia than you need to run all your lines flat out then you will prioritize the cards with the higher value as long as binning is sufficient, and with the very modest OC levels this time around I suspect that most chips are meeting the required standard...

If you ordered a non-OC version, it could be a very long wait ...

Exactly. they're not going to downclock OC chips whilst they still have OC orders to provide. Only if 1 or 2 fail to meet the mark will they go in a non OC card. otherwise its a waiting game for most.

 

[Mr Oblong]

A legal thing that we have been promised a code (SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY). no availability then no legal thing unfortunately.

Just gotta hope you get one of the codes and that OC are honoring the ones they can. I hope they aren't just handing them out to people that didn't have it on their order invoice but idk

yep they're all claiming their watchdog codes as we speak

My order confirmation doesn't say subject to availability, I think it's potentially an obligation. I mean, can they just offer one code subject to availability?

 

[LostPenguins]

Me too, helped justify a higher end GPU than I normally go for. Plus it's an RTX showcase, y'know?

Yeah, even with the performance gains it is still a pricey purchase. There really isn't a huge number of RTX games yet so it would be nice to get one of the few.

 

[Mr Oblong]

And me. Its literally the only reason i could find to justify the purchase so i'll be frustrated if it doesn't come but its a fair way off so wait and see what happens

Same.

Could be a different deal on by the time my card actually ships!

Yeah, even with the performance gains it is still a pricey purchase. There really isn't a huge number of RTX games yet so it would be nice to get one of the few.

Yeah, you always want a showcase for your new card. There's a reason they offered it, they just have to follow through!

 

[Xyclops]

My order confirmation doesn't say subject to availability, I think it's potentially an obligation. I mean, can they just offer one code subject to availability?

But it is listed as a price of £0 so they can argue it had no value.

 

[Bl4d3z]

Technically the product isnt pre-order anymore its back-order and if memory serves right they have to deliver preorders with 30 days of launch date and since that would be for the strix queue 28th october. After this point you could argue that consumer rights are in fact infringed upon but whether its actionable is a diff story. Mainly because it's a supply n demand issue. Either way your best just sticking it out n just accepting itll be what itll be and overall yes it does suck. But nothing we can do about it.

 

[SeeNoWeevil]

"A small amount of Asus TUF OC will arrive tomorrow"

Say it, Gibbo. Saaaaaaaaaaay iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttttttttttttt!!!

 

[Mr Oblong]

But it is listed as a price of £0 so they can argue it had no value.

True, but just saying 'no more' isn't good enough either right? If they committed at the order confirmation to providing it.

I'm sure they could buy some codes off Uni themselves, ha

"A small amount of Asus TUF OC will arrive tomorrow"

Say it, Gibbo. Saaaaaaaaaaay iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttttttttttttt!!!

You OC guys have had some already, it's time for the non OC folks to get some love!

 

[Things change I've changed]

So what's the score with regular (non-oc) TUF cards then? Have any even been shipped?

 

[Four_G]

You OC guys have had some already, it's time for the non OC folks to get some love!

+1

 

[Flake87]

But it is listed as a price of £0 so they can argue it had no value.

Going to be a very difficult situation legally, because knowing that they only had 1000 codes they should have allocated these to the first 1000 orders and ceased offering the freebie the moment gpu 1000 was sold. Sending out confirmation after that point knowing they didn't have codes could well be an arguable legal point that an obligation to supply has been created.

Then there's the issue of how these are allocated, at time time of puchase - which is probably how it should be done, or at time of delivery which would mean that several buyers who should have been entitled to receive a code won't be through no fault of their own, and others who ordered late and outside what might have been considered the promotional period receive something they would not fairly be entitled to.

The argument therefore is not over the availability of those codes but in the way a company has decided to allocate them.

Lots of money for the greedy weasels and nothing of value to show at the end of it.

 

[Bazz21uk]

I get what you are saying. But the problem is that its not like queueing at a shop to buy something and you see your queue isn't moving and another queue is, so you move across to the next queue (at the back with clear idea that it is a better decision than staying).

With these cards nobody knew the queue lengths for weeks or the incoming stock levels (even now we don't). By the time this became known, the people that ordered early, and probably had a horrible time doing so due to website failures, are suddenly in a position where they are stuck on the card they originally chose, because going to the back of any other queue will be a far longer wait.

I guess I am saying that if ordered a card first then its fair that you get a card first. Maybe thats because I don't particularly care about brands etc and they are all the same to me. I just went with the cheapest and I'm still in a queue waiting for it.

Everybody is in the same position. Its not fair to push somebody out of line because you chose the wrong one. I chose the wrong one too and so did about half of people that pre-ordered. Some guys are just getting some luck. Likewise some are very unlucky. Its not the customers fault so its unfair for people to expect others to move aside whilst they push in to get a card sooner. Very bad practice of OC to have allowed it at all imho

True, but just saying 'no more' isn't good enough either right? If they committed at the order confirmation to providing it.

I'm sure they could buy some codes off Uni themselves, ha

I don't think its good enough but who am i to them? Why would they care enough to do anything? They certainly aren't likely to take the hit and buy codes for us. I can see it been left at nvidias doorstep and them doing something for us but your guess is as good as mine lol

 

[Brett Bryant]

Hey guys, I've seen a lot of people say what position in the queue they are, how would one find this information? I can't see anything in my pre-order.