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Asus Strix oc

 

[Bazz21uk]

I don't think it's a judgement of what you spend your money on, most of us here are gamers otherwise we wouldn't want the card, I think it's just more the risk that comes with getting credit for luxury goods instead of waiting until you can afford it. Credit is risky because circumstances can change and this isn't a dig at anyone specifically but as society gets more used to credit and the risk, what ends up happening is it gets out of control with spending and then we decide let the government bail us out with tax money, which punishes us all, that's precisely what happened in 2008 with a housing bubble. Credit and personal risk is fine but the temptation to turn that from a private debt into a public one I have a share in, that's really lame. People who are very responsible with their money who make judgement are typically holding other people to standards no higher than they hold themselves.

Debt for an asset is a different thing, if a car can enables you to work places you otherwise couldn't or a house stops you paying rent and allows you to invest in an asset that appreciates on average, then that's a different story as those things have a ROI. But to take debt out to buy luxuries is just silly. Another person just said that it's the only way to afford stuff and that's just wrong, the fact that people think that is kinda depressing. You could defer gratification for a bit, save that money and buy things outright once you can afford it and you avoid all the interest payments which makes life cheaper for you.

The fact that people would also do this during these times where the economy is on the brink of serious collapose, the furlough scheme is about to end and loads of redundancies are on the way, the unemployment is expected to skyrocket which in turn will make other businesses struggle, it's not good. It only takes probably a year of so of being frugal, putting your savings into a savings account to flip from purchasing your luxuries on debt to purchasing them on your own savings is not that hard and it'll save you so much money in the long run, national cost of debt in the UK is huge, all for the sake of a year or so of deferring gratification, it's mental.

i actually agree with a lot of what you've said. I just don't think its right to make those kind of comments and judgements in this thread. People make different choices and we don't know their backgrounds or reasoning. As many have said they manage their money well and credit for a lot including myself is a way to manage that money even if we could afford items outright.

 

[Adrian Branes]

I am currently 12th in the queue for Asus TUF OC, I ordered on release day, I think my transaction finally went through around 3pm. At this rate, I will probably have all the details on Big Navi before I receive my card. If big Navi competes well, is available and has a good price, I may just cancel my order (or return the Asus tuf, if by some miracle I have it by then) and go with AMD this round. I think Nvidia has completely shot themselves in the foot with this launch.

Totally agree, think I will be doing the same, no way AMD can do any worse than this launch. Nvidia don't deserve our money now.

 

[Saltank]

the asus tuf oc are barely getting any either. I think we got 0 last week.

I’d like to know how many they will get in the next week or two. Am on the verge of cancelling my pre-order if it’ll be the same ~15 cards/week rate.

 

[Krazeyivan]

Not sure I buy the Nvidia are hording chips and will flood the market around AMD's launch. For them to horde the memory chips does them no good. If they hand them over end of the month, its going to be 6 weeks at least from that point for the production cycle to complete and products to ship.
It would only make sense if they are restricting partner deliveries to dribble worthy amounts via air delivery and asking them to stock for shipment by boats now.

 

[Bazz21uk]

Totally agree, think I will be doing the same, no way AMD can do any worse than this launch. Nvidia don't deserve our money now.

you would be surprised. If rumours are true then nvidia have played a blinder tbh. Faced with a direct choice im sure most would pick nvidia plus now a lot of people have bought into the idea of the 3080 that may not have before. If there's supply of both at the same time then nvidia are just going to rub amds nose in it a little more. It doesn't suit us but from a business point of view it might be considered genius

 

[alim192]

It's not showing for some reason. Can you send it as a PM, please. It'd be appreciated.

https://imgur.com/HcK6jKC

hopefully it works this time

 

[Platypus_Man_Lives]

For anyone in the msi gaming trio queue, if another make / model sorts their supply out and sits in stock to be ordered which model would you happily buy instead?

Probably TUF OC, reviews show that they have almost identical performance to MSI (bit cooler, bit louder, fraction slower) but they appear to be more solidly built and might last longer.
Strix seems like a massive rip off, does not appear to offer anything new for the money.

 

[Slixy]

Nvidia panicked, wanted to be first to release before AMD and it's backfired massively. Wait till AMD shows their hand, I bet a lot of you will switch to the red side.

 

[Platypus_Man_Lives]

you would be surprised. If rumours are true then nvidia have played a blinder tbh. Faced with a direct choice im sure most would pick nvidia plus now a lot of people have bought into the idea of the 3080 that may not have before. If there's supply of both at the same time then nvidia are just going to rub amds nose in it a little more. It doesn't suit us but from a business point of view it might be considered genius

I am curious to see if AMD can somehow outperform the 3080 lineup at 1440p which most people play at. That would get me interested.

 

[nikoliath]

I don't think it's a judgement of what you spend your money on, most of us here are gamers otherwise we wouldn't want the card, I think it's just more the risk that comes with getting credit for luxury goods instead of waiting until you can afford it. Credit is risky because circumstances can change and this isn't a dig at anyone specifically but as society gets more used to credit and the risk, what ends up happening is it gets out of control with spending and then we decide let the government bail us out with tax money, which punishes us all, that's precisely what happened in 2008 with a housing bubble. Credit and personal risk is fine but the temptation to turn that from a private debt into a public one I have a share in, that's really lame. People who are very responsible with their money who make judgement are typically holding other people to standards no higher than they hold themselves.

Debt for an asset is a different thing, if a car can enables you to work places you otherwise couldn't or a house stops you paying rent and allows you to invest in an asset that appreciates on average, then that's a different story as those things have a ROI. But to take debt out to buy luxuries is just silly. Another person just said that it's the only way to afford stuff and that's just wrong, the fact that people think that is kinda depressing. You could defer gratification for a bit, save that money and buy things outright once you can afford it and you avoid all the interest payments which makes life cheaper for you.

The fact that people would also do this during these times where the economy is on the brink of serious collapose, the furlough scheme is about to end and loads of redundancies are on the way, the unemployment is expected to skyrocket which in turn will make other businesses struggle, it's not good. It only takes probably a year of so of being frugal, putting your savings into a savings account to flip from purchasing your luxuries on debt to purchasing them on your own savings is not that hard and it'll save you so much money in the long run, national cost of debt in the UK is huge, all for the sake of a year or so of deferring gratification, it's mental.

wow.....what's it like up there?

 

[Silent_Scone]

Nvidia panicked, wanted to be first to release before AMD and it's backfired massively. Wait till AMD shows their hand, I bet a lot of you will switch to the red side.

AMD's position will be the same globally. You can only sell as many as you can make.

Which is hopefully enough

 

[PrincessFrosty]

i actually agree with a lot of what you've said. I just don't think its right to make those kind of comments and judgements in this thread. People make different choices and we don't know their backgrounds or reasoning. As many have said they manage their money well and credit for a lot including myself is a way to manage that money even if we could afford items outright.

That's fair enough I mean I've been in a wide range of financial circumstances through my life as well, and being a tech enthusiast and gamer during those times is tough because you really want access to the tech. I think want miffed me into the response was this notion that someone else said which is credit is the only way for some people, I think that's a dangerous way of thinking, it's not true and if you buy into that you're kinda suckered into making your life more expensive via interest on debt, it's not good.

Not sure I buy the Nvidia are hording chips and will flood the market around AMD's launch. For them to horde the memory chips does them no good. If they hand them over end of the month, its going to be 6 weeks at least from that point for the production cycle to complete and products to ship.
It would only make sense if they are restricting partner deliveries to dribble worthy amounts via air delivery and asking them to stock for shipment by boats now.

People have made this argument a fair bit, artifical delay does not benefit Nvidia as far as I can tell, people have claimed its price gouging but to my knowledge Nvidia don't increase the cost to AIBs under those circumstances, the people that benefit from gouging is typically end user stores. For Nvidia it only means their product is potentially priced higher which is a bad look on them as it means worse priceerf for the customer.

wow.....what's it like up there?

It's really boring because it's all being sensible and responsible with finances which sucks, but it's generally speaking a good thing to do. It's good advice, take it or leave it.

 

[Illuminist]

Once again vague pathetic information from Gibbo. Why when others are giving numbers can ocuk not do this. Please stop with the "ok, small, very small" others are saying how many they have ordered and how many came in why can you not.

Because they use them for pre built, this way is vague enough to take them out.
If he said 12 are arriving, and 8 shipped then you'd see it clearly

 

[nikoliath]

That's fair enough I mean I've been in a wide range of financial circumstances through my life as well, and being a tech enthusiast and gamer during those times is tough because you really want access to the tech. I think want miffed me into the response was this notion that someone else said which is credit is the only way for some people, I think that's a dangerous way of thinking, it's not true and if you buy into that you're kinda suckered into making your life more expensive via interest on debt, it's not good.



People have made this argument a fair bit, artifical delay does not benefit Nvidia as far as I can tell, people have claimed its price gouging but to my knowledge Nvidia don't increase the cost to AIBs under those circumstances, the people that benefit from gouging is typically end user stores. For Nvidia it only means their product is potentially priced higher which is a bad look on them as it means worse priceerf for the customer.



It's really boring because it's all being sensible and responsible with finances which sucks, but it's generally speaking a good thing to do. It's good advice, take it or leave it.

wouldn't be so boring without the credit based economy below you...

 

[LoZeno]

It only takes probably a year of so of being frugal, putting your savings into a savings account to flip from purchasing your luxuries on debt to purchasing them on your own savings is not that hard and it'll save you so much money in the long run, national cost of debt in the UK is huge, all for the sake of a year or so of deferring gratification, it's mental.

I come from a not-so-lucky economic background, and I can tell you: for a LOT of people, and I mean A LOT, it doesn't "take probably a year or so of being frugal" to flip from purchasing luxuries on debt to purchasing them on our own savings. Every time I hear this ******** I know that it comes from someone who didn't have any money problem, ever - I lived frugally, and I mean really frugally, for several years trying to build my savings, but any small issue like a boiler needing repairs or an increase in my train season ticket would bring me back to square 1. Do you know what actually flips you from buying always on debt (not just "the luxuries") to purchasing on your own savings? Luck. I went from having to rely on my debit card for purchasing groceries, to having enough money in my savings that I can buy a whole new PC built around an RTX 3080 cash on hand, because I got lucky enough to be accepted in a job that I was not initially qualified for.

 

[HACO]

Not sure I buy the Nvidia are hording chips and will flood the market around AMD's launch. For them to horde the memory chips does them no good. If they hand them over end of the month, its going to be 6 weeks at least from that point for the production cycle to complete and products to ship.
It would only make sense if they are restricting partner deliveries to dribble worthy amounts via air delivery and asking them to stock for shipment by boats now.

Word on the street was that Nvidia delivered 300k chips to AIBs last week, so that they'll have big stock deliveries in November.

 

[Silent_Scone]

Buy now pay later if you've got more sense than a 2x4 is absolutely fine. Passing judgement on someone in 2020 for using finance is more ignorant than utilising it, IMO.

You can abuse anything, even money you do have. Anyway, OT much lol.


213 in Strix non OC queue and counting

 

[strocky]

If all of this is lack of stock is setup by Nvidia to drive up prices which is looking more and more likely, then just be patient and wait till November.
It means Overclockers aren’t allowed to give out information hence the lack of updates. Everywhere is the same regarding information.
I understand people want to vent their frustrations but I it’s just like hundreds of pages of the same complaint and nothing is gonna change. This is all Nvidias doing.
I’m a pretty pessimistic person but I really do believe in November you will start to see these queues dropping like a stone.

Nobody is forcing you to subscribe to the thread

 

[Teq]

Nvidia panicked, wanted to be first to release before AMD and it's backfired massively. Wait till AMD shows their hand, I bet a lot of you will switch to the red side.

If I wasn't sitting on a G-Sync only monitor I most likely would jump off the queue if team red had anything close to the 3080 for performance