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Iron Man said:
1-6 business days lag between factory and retailer for some manufacturers likes ASUS so not as bad as you make out.
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You're talking about time in transit. I am talking about time to manufacture, assemble, test and package, as well as to ship. And don't forget the components are not all manufactured in one place. So there will be time taken to send chips from Samsung etc. to assembly locations. Manufacturing time, along with logistics is much, much longer than most people imagine.
 
Gypsum Fantastic said:
You're talking about time in transit. I am talking about time to manufacture, assemble, test and package, as well as to ship. And don't forget the components are not all manufactured in one place. So there will be time taken to send chips from Samsung etc. to assembly locations. Manufacturing time, along with logistics is much, much longer than most people imagine.
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144 hours to manufacture, test etc and then 1-6 business days to ship so between a week to two weeks overall. These are timeframes that ASUS gave so not a guess and still far less than what you quoted.
 
Gypsum Fantastic said:
You're talking about time in transit. I am talking about time to manufacture, assemble, test and package, as well as to ship. And don't forget the components are not all manufactured in one place. So there will be time taken to send chips from Samsung etc. to assembly locations. Manufacturing time, along with logistics is much, much longer than most people imagine.
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ASUS already put out a statement that it's 144 hours from start of production to shipping, so I really don't see them having a month long turnaround
 
I think the general rule is if you've ordered an ASUS card everyone else is shipping far more units, however if you've ordered anything else, ASUS are shipping far more regularly, even though no one has received any cards. :)
 
Matt72033 said:
I think the general rule is if you've ordered an ASUS card everyone else is shipping far more units, however if you've ordered anything else, ASUS are shipping far more regularly, even though no one has received any cards. :)
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Smaller amounts more regularly is great for those of us at the top of the queue but sucks for those towards the bottom
 
Gypsum Fantastic said:
Don't get too excited. Even with Express Air shipping the lag between factory and retailer is a month. Whatever is happening now will be felt in four to five weeks.
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Asus arent doing normal distribution atm. They are using DHL express to ship direct from factory to the retailers two to three times a week. That should be quciker than the normal delivery times.

The issue is how many,

And Asus has said they are only delivering to shops who are partners and will only sell one card per person.

I know OCUK parent company is on that list.
 
Frubeling said:
ASUS already put out a statement that it's 144 hours from start of production to shipping, so I really don't see them having a month long turnaround
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Yeah, they say on their Facebook post that cards are "assembled and tested (up to 144 hours)" — which looking at it now is really ambiguous. I took that to mean 144 hours is how long it takes to run all of the testing, but it might mean both. Who knows?

What I can tell you is I have a lot of experience dealing with Chinese factories, manufacture and logistics and 144 hours plus a few days air shipping is unprecedented speed. Like, less than a quarter of normal production cycle in my experience, and I've never dealt with anything as complex as a graphics card. So I guess I assumed that time was for the testing because otherwise it sounds impossible to me. That's just my opinion. I'm not saying I'm right.
 
Gypsum Fantastic said:
Yeah, they say on their Facebook post that cards are "assembled and tested (up to 144 hours)" — which looking at it now is really ambiguous. I took that to mean 144 hours is how long it takes to run all of the testing, but it might mean both. Who knows?

What I can tell you is I have a lot of experience dealing with Chinese factories, manufacture and logistics and 144 hours plus a few days air shipping is unprecedented speed. Like, less than a quarter of normal production cycle in my experience, and I've never dealt with anything as complex as a graphics card. So I guess I assumed that time was for the testing because otherwise it sounds impossible to me. That's just my opinion.
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144 hours from start to finish from the ASUS Facebook page. I’m just pointing at what ASUS have publicly said. I don’t have any experience of graphic card manufacture but I don’t give unqualified opinions either lol. In any event it’s day 14 and no 3090 Rog Strix have been seen anywhere in the wild and we have no eta from either ASUS or OC when we will receive them. Hopefully in another 14 days time we will have more clarity.
 
Gypsum Fantastic said:
What I can tell you is I have a lot of experience dealing with Chinese factories, manufacture and logistics and 144 hours plus a few days air shipping is unprecedented speed. Like, less than a quarter of normal production cycle in my experience, and I've never dealt with anything as complex as a graphics card. So I guess I assumed that time was for the testing because otherwise it sounds impossible to me. That's just my opinion. I'm not saying I'm right.
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I work in manufacturing myself, without saying too much about who I work for or what we make it's a darnsight higher spec than graphics cards and a month is approximately how long it takes for us to go from PCB preconditioning to putting goods to stock when manufacturing at a leisurely pace. I would imagine graphics cards don't have anywhere near the amount of layers to their assembly or the stringent testing and calibration our products go through.
This being on a very small site with maybe 20ish people on the manufacturing floor at any given time and almost exclusively manual assembly. I would imagine ASUS have a much larger scale operation going on
 
Iron Man said:
144 hours from start to finish from the ASUS Facebook page. I’m just pointing at what ASUS have publicly said. I don’t have any experience of graphic card manufacture but I don’t give unqualified opinions either lol. In any event it’s day 14 and no 3090 Rog Strix have been seen anywhere in the wild and we have no eta from either ASUS or OC when we will receive them. Hopefully in another 14 days time we will have more clarity.
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No opinions. Got it. Hoping you apply this rule equally to all posters. ;)

I mean, look, we may disagree. So what? People disagree. But I'm never going to say 'Hey, stop giving 'unqualified' opinions'. This is forum, for one. Opinions are 99% of what this is. And second, you have no idea what experience I bring to the table, just as I have no idea what experience you have. And it's especially rude when I literally say 'I am not saying I'm right. It's just my opinion based on my experience' to say you don't want to hear it. Chill out man. This is a forum. Sharing opinions is all there is here.
 
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Frubeling said:
I work in manufacturing myself, without saying too much about who I work for or what we make it's a darnsight higher spec than graphics cards and a month is approximately how long it takes for us to go from PCB preconditioning to putting goods to stock when manufacturing at a leisurely pace. I would imagine graphics cards don't have anywhere near the amount of layers to their assembly or the stringent testing and calibration our products go through.
This being on a very small site with maybe 20ish people on the manufacturing floor at any given time and almost exclusively manual assembly. I would imagine ASUS have a much larger scale operation going on
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Asus factories are all 100% robots now and one Asus factory alone produces 60,000 motherboards and 30,000 graphics cards per day.

Obviously with the 144 hours from chip to completed testing Asus has quoted, once they get back from the holidays, each factory will be shipping out 30,000 gfx cards per day starting in 6 days time. I have no idea how many of their production factories they have turned over to 3000 series production.

Depending on shipping and distribution used will then depend how soon we see them but from one factory along Asus could make 330,000 cards before xmas.
 
More importantly I'm still waiting to here on the yesterdays shipment notification: "Tomorrow a small amount of 3090 and 3080 TUF OC shall arrive."

No updates from people at the front of the Q, were these delivered or was it a different model ? If they came in late yesterday enough time has elapsed for an update.
 
I only ordered yesterday as I have a 2080Ti and didn't feel the need to upgrade. However, I changed my mind about ordering after seeing the shortages and thought to myself that I will just continue to use my PC and hope that the card arrives before Christmas.

If it doesn't, then I won't lose any sleep but at least I know that my upgrade is coming at some point. Plus I'm waiting on a waterblock, so even if I had the card to hand I wouldn't be able to run it :p
 
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